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Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:30 pm
by troglodyte
Our congregation is sending seven trucks and trailers with supplies to a church we are associated with in South Houston. One of our driver's dad is in Conroe. He made the drive to the church this morning and made it with little trouble.

I'm looking for any reports of road conditions through downtown Houston, looters, or other hazards that a seven truck convey may attract driving through downtown Houston or unloading in South Houston.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:21 pm
by bmwrdr
I am not actually in Houston but I follow the news since last Friday and here is what I gathered:

1. The drivin conditions have improved so far on I45, most traffic is rescue and emergency vehicles.
2. There were several cases of looting reported but by far not as many as during Kathrina in 2005.
3. Emergency services at still overloaded (911).

If I would drive I would have a backup battery for my cell phone and a car charger. Besides that I would carry and have a spare magazine with me.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:23 pm
by twomillenium
Haven't heard of any convoy hijacks. Delivery trucks travel daily throughout the city in quantities probably more than the panhandle area has monthly. Flooding has subsided and most interstates are open with the exception of I-10 on the eastside to Beaumont.
The looting I have heard about is occurring at stores closed due to Harvey. Unfortunately there is always the slight risk of robbery but that happens everywhere.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:08 pm
by Scott65
Under normal conditions, South Houston has a pretty good police presence... Also under normal conditions, there is a business on College in South Houston, All America Sales, (No affiliation, just a landmark) that installs and sells emergency equipment to surrounding police department, sheriff's, etc. so there would be extra police presence from other jurisdiction, muniipalities, etc. But conditions aren't normal now, and I would be prepared for the worst, just in case. Having said all that, in general it seems that goodwill, and the Texas spirit are in abundance all things considered. Be safe, and may you be blessed in your service to those in need.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:01 am
by Liberty
I suspect that despite reports of some looting, that crime rates are at an all time low. Houston is NOT New Orleans.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:07 am
by troglodyte
Sounds like we're all getting the same info. I wanted to hear from some like minded folks who have a discerning view on things.

To get to the church we stay on I-45 until the last minute and then it is one stop sign and one red light so we won't be exposed for that long. I'm not anticipating anything happening but will be watching and prepared.

Thanks for the info.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:18 am
by RHenriksen
While HPD is (was?) running at 40% of normal capacity during the storm (people unable to get to work and/or patrol cars flooded), looting was still pretty minimal and I have seen very little info on social media about violence. So, while the previous advice about carrying + cell phone chargers are always good advice (Boy Scouts FTW), I think you'll probably have a smooth experience.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:29 am
by Beiruty
Stick an AK or 2 in each truck. Nah, you are still in Texas

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:54 am
by Pariah3j
What part of South Houston are you talking about? Inside or Outside the Loop (beltway 8)? If you have a more specific area you are heading - aka Friendswood or Pearland, might be helpful, as more specific info could be given on the conditions.

As far as roadways - everything seems to be doing good on the SouthEast side, water receding pretty good - all the major roads are open except as mentioned the portions of I-10 east.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:59 am
by Pariah3j
Oh and other than a few reports of looting - and some reports on Facebook of some of the Cajun Navy being fired on, I haven't heard of any issues. Of course, what part of South Houston you are going to will make a big difference for that as well.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:20 am
by Bitter Clinger
Fuel may be a problem if you are not carrying your own.

Everyone here at work reporting long gas lines, empty pumps and price gouging :banghead: :mad5

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:27 am
by troglodyte
My mistake. The church is located at I-45 & I-10 at Colorado and Weber. I was told South Houston then I got the actual address.

We are prepared, car chargers, UHF radios in every vehicle, several LTCs. We have enough supplies in the trailers to take care of ourselves.

Sounds like our biggest problem may be fuel. We're taking a couple of trailer mounted 100 & 150 gallon bulk fuel tanks but it won't be enough for the convoy if we can't refuel nearby. The Loves out by Conroe says they have fuel and are a priority station to keep getting fuel. I don't know how reliable their supply is but we must go on faith.

Appreciate the help. We leave Friday morning and deliver Saturday morning. I'll check back to see if there is any updates.

I haven't seen many reports but wanted to check with folks that may have a closer vantage point. Appreciate the help.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:30 am
by oohrah
My kids were able to drive back to Galveston yesterday afternoon from Waco, no problems, found gas at the Buccee's in Waller.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:48 am
by CleverNickname
TXDOT runs https://drivetexas.org, so it has the most recent/accurate highway status you'll probably get.

Re: Local recon needed -Houston

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:32 am
by Liberty
CleverNickname wrote:TXDOT runs https://drivetexas.org, so it has the most recent/accurate highway status you'll probably get.
The phone app waze is free and been real helpful for those trying to navigate blocked and flooded street. It is a battery hog though.
Waze relies on user updates, so it can be the most current data available.