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Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:14 am
by skeathley
http://concealednation.org/2018/08/devi ... 9ff1b5733c

Police could use this to replace "stop-and-frisk", which works, but has been ruled unconstitutional.

:tiphat:

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:41 am
by crazy2medic
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't need to Emit in order to detect? If so what are they bombarding your body with?

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:53 am
by montgomery
This is really going to send the folks already OCD about printing into a tizzy.

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:04 am
by DocV
crazy2medic wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:41 am Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't need to Emit in order to detect? If so what are they bombarding your body with?
6.3 - 8 GhZ radio signals through multiple antennas. The maximum band range is 3.3-10 GhZ. They match their inbound signals to pre-programmed weapon profiles. The device can also scan face images to identify specific individuals.

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:09 am
by RogueUSMC
the system intentionally prohibits any features, which could be exploited to invade privacy.
Kinda the whole device in a nutshell wouldn't you say?

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:11 am
by flechero
RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:09 am
the system intentionally prohibits any features, which could be exploited to invade privacy.
Kinda the whole device in a nutshell wouldn't you say?
Yep, and I'm certain it's hack-proof. :eek6

On the other hand, if everyone OC'd this wouldn't matter. :lol:

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 am
by Jusme
flechero wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:11 am
RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:09 am
the system intentionally prohibits any features, which could be exploited to invade privacy.
Kinda the whole device in a nutshell wouldn't you say?
Yep, and I'm certain it's hack-proof. :eek6

On the other hand, if everyone OC'd this wouldn't matter. :lol:
That was my thought. They will waste a lot of money on me, since they shouldn't need a smartphone to detect my gun. ;-)

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:23 am
by ELB
If you could lead people to believe that with a small tweak this could detect illegal immigrants it would be banned in gun-phobic states in a heartbeat.

New market niche: jammers.

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:57 am
by G.A. Heath
ELB wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:23 am If you could lead people to believe that with a small tweak this could detect illegal immigrants it would be banned in gun-phobic states in a heartbeat.

New market niche: jammers.
Considering the fact that it has facial recognition software you could tie it into the federal 'Real ID' database and if someone doesn't appear in it but does appear in the drivers license database (Some states like our neighbor to the west, NM, issue drivers licenses to illegals that are not valid for federal ID purposes) and you should have probable cause to check immigration status...

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:14 am
by crazy2medic
DocV wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:04 am
crazy2medic wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:41 am Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't need to Emit in order to detect? If so what are they bombarding your body with?
6.3 - 8 GhZ radio signals through multiple antennas. The maximum band range is 3.3-10 GhZ. They match their inbound signals to pre-programmed weapon profiles. The device can also scan face images to identify specific individuals.
So could you have a counter emitter that sends the same frequency and blanks out what they are sending?

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:30 am
by bblhd672
Attention Tech Companies: In case you didn't notice, the book "1984" is in the fiction section, not the "How To" section. :banghead:

Tech industry is becoming the police state's biggest ally.

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:39 am
by bblhd672
RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:09 am
the system intentionally prohibits any features, which could be exploited to invade privacy.
Kinda the whole device in a nutshell wouldn't you say?
In a police state, there is zero expectation of privacy.


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Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:25 pm
by chamberc
bblhd672 wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:39 am
RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:09 am
the system intentionally prohibits any features, which could be exploited to invade privacy.
Kinda the whole device in a nutshell wouldn't you say?
In a police state, there is zero expectation of privacy.


https://www.royalholdings.org/team
Barry is the CEO of Royal Holdings; he leads new business and new solution development as well as group marketing.
Barry founded TerrorMate, the world's first terror and mass shooting alert mobile app. He is a former intelligence contractor with expertise in sanction busting, narcotics, narco-terror groups, and smuggling syndicates in the Middle East, and he has worked with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, Belgium Customs Intelligence Agency, Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs Intelligence, and the U.S. Department of Defense Criminal Investigation Service (DCIS). Barry is the author of the Amazon best seller The Black Market Concierge.
I'd say, in public, there is no expectation of privacy. And you regularly sign away your privacy in your own home.

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:54 pm
by mojo84
chamberc wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:25 pm
bblhd672 wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:39 am
RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:09 am
the system intentionally prohibits any features, which could be exploited to invade privacy.
Kinda the whole device in a nutshell wouldn't you say?
In a police state, there is zero expectation of privacy.


https://www.royalholdings.org/team
Barry is the CEO of Royal Holdings; he leads new business and new solution development as well as group marketing.
Barry founded TerrorMate, the world's first terror and mass shooting alert mobile app. He is a former intelligence contractor with expertise in sanction busting, narcotics, narco-terror groups, and smuggling syndicates in the Middle East, and he has worked with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, Belgium Customs Intelligence Agency, Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs Intelligence, and the U.S. Department of Defense Criminal Investigation Service (DCIS). Barry is the author of the Amazon best seller The Black Market Concierge.
I'd say, in public, there is no expectation of privacy. And you regularly sign away your privacy in your own home.
There is an expectation of not being searched without consent or a warrant. Scanning and finding what is in my pockets and under my clothes is not something that is out in public view. I do expect what I have concealed in my pockets and under my close to stay private.
Article [IV] (Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure)
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Re: Device Lets Smartphone Users Scan For Concealed Firearms

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:56 pm
by chamberc
mojo84 wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:54 pm
chamberc wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:25 pm
bblhd672 wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:39 am
RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:09 am
the system intentionally prohibits any features, which could be exploited to invade privacy.
Kinda the whole device in a nutshell wouldn't you say?
In a police state, there is zero expectation of privacy.


https://www.royalholdings.org/team
Barry is the CEO of Royal Holdings; he leads new business and new solution development as well as group marketing.
Barry founded TerrorMate, the world's first terror and mass shooting alert mobile app. He is a former intelligence contractor with expertise in sanction busting, narcotics, narco-terror groups, and smuggling syndicates in the Middle East, and he has worked with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, Belgium Customs Intelligence Agency, Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs Intelligence, and the U.S. Department of Defense Criminal Investigation Service (DCIS). Barry is the author of the Amazon best seller The Black Market Concierge.
I'd say, in public, there is no expectation of privacy. And you regularly sign away your privacy in your own home.
There is an expectation of not being searched without consent or a warrant. Scanning and finding what is in my pockets and under my clothes is not something that is out in public view. I do expect what I have concealed in my pockets and under my close to stay private.
Article [IV] (Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure)
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
True, but the government will say it is free to send and receive radio waves.