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Scary precedent. Although it will likely be struck down by SCOTUS, it will take years to get there and the fact remains the the majority of politicians in California find this acceptable.

I'm officially calling it, the left has abandoned the Bill of Rights.

Assembly Bill 2943 would make it an “unlawful business practice” to engage in “a transaction intended to result or that results in the sale or lease of goods or services to any consumer” that advertise, offer to engage in, or do engage in “sexual orientation change efforts with an individual.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/ ... ee-speech/

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... 0180AB2943

It would be pretty easy to expand that law into anything promoting a standard family system and standard sexual orientation as "sexual orientation change efforts" if that were the main premise.

In California? I would have thought that was part of their main way of life...

Maxwell wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:46 am In California? I would have thought that was part of their main way of life...

Read that again.... They are proposing banning anyone from trying to DISSUADE people from changing their sexual orientation.

Since the Bill of Rights Amendments to our Constitution recognizes individual rights rather than the rights of the Collective or Government, it seems plain to me that Leftists by whatever name have elimination of the Bill of Rights as a central goal.

Seems like they may be opening up the possibility of a suit against anyone who advocates FOR sex change or attempts to persuade their little Johnny that he is actually little Joanna.

Yes I believe that is their ultimate goal!

Let's set aside the topic for a minute and focus on the mechanism - banning books. I'm not allowed to create an publish a book and submit it in a free marketplace? Because someone else has deemed it unworthy of being available to the public? Exactly how many topics can fall into this category and exactly who is responsible for making that determination? The California Legislature? I don't think so.

The real threat is not a political party. The true threat is the decay of the American mind.

Complacency, laziness, narcissism, short-term thinking, decadence, gullibility, group-think, anti-intellectualism, a willingness to accept bad behavior from everyone (especially our "leaders"). Social media has proven to be a hindrance to the intellectual health of society. Our insatiable addiction to ever increasing levels of convenience and comfort has destroyed our collective spirit, as well as the planet itself.

Humans used to have grit. Grit came from hardship and sacrifice, but that grit is what kept us alive and moving forward for millions of years. Humans used to run down their food and savor every bite over a fire they built without matches. Now, we go to Wal-Mart and pick out a frozen meal made of chemicals that causes children to develop obesity and diabetes by adolescence. Some have called it "progress", but it certainly does not look like "progress" to me.

Corporations and governments have hijacked our minds and hearts...and yet, we have accepted all of it with blissful ignorance. Why? Because at the end of the day, both political parties comprise people who are members of the same cabal: arrogant, wealthy narcissists who believe they can "change the world", as long as such change does not involve they themselves giving up anything of their own.

And that's my whole point. The enemy is not a political ideology. The enemy is our collective inability to see that we are being played, and have been getting played for a very long time. And that is the real conspiracy.

But so far no one has presented any evidence that this is a policy advocated for or proposed by anyone identified as or claiming to represent the left.

Remember that in California it was Governor Ronald Reagan that signed the bill (named after the Republican Assemblyman) making it illegal to carry a loaded firearm in public.

It's funny because I was living in California at the time and my then wife was working for an attorney who had defended a guy that was convicted of murder who then swore to kill the judge, the prosecutor, his own attorney and all the staff in court and then escaped custody during a sanity hearing. At the time to police said while they would drive by our house when they could they really couldn't offer us much in the way of protection and so I should buy and carry a gun. They assured me the new law would not be an issue since it was really aimed at "them folk" and that the guy most likely was long gone.