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Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:12 am
by Tex1961
So.... while waiting for a work process to finish, I was sitting at my desk perusing youtube.... Watched a video of a "for reference only" Lady... take a guys MAGA hat... The video goes on for a good while as the guy is asking repeatedly to get his hat back while the perp goes off ranting about all the things the SJW's rant about.... Fortunately all ends well as he gets his hat back and she goes to jail... Win Win in my book....
My question is. At what level do you escalate.... Do you get physical trying to take YOUR property back that was stolen from you... Do to try to engage with someone who's ideology is so far left of yours that you're never going to meet in the middle....
While I applaud the guy trying to be as calm and mature as possible and not cause more of a scene, I wonder if in that situation at what point my patience would have run out before I moved onto a physical response to gain MY STOLEN PROPERTY back...
What say you....
Actual incident starts around 4 minutes into the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnYRQypB9NM
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:29 am
by Middle Age Russ
As with so many things, how I respond to someone stealing my property will largely be related to my feelings about the property itself and the circumstances of how it is being / was stolen. One thing to keep in mind always is that property is just that and can likely be replaced (insurance can be a help in this). Once time is gone it can't be replaced and then of course you cannot replace a life that is taken. So, when our property is stolen our actions should be predicated on a risk versus reward basis. What do we we risk -- time, money, freedom,etc... -- versus the reward of regaining our stolen property. Most of the time I hope good sense will prevail for me and I won't risk spending too much time, money and freedom to regain something I originally had.
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:03 am
by Jusme
My response will also be dictated, by circumstance, property's value, either monetary, or sentimental, and what an escalated response, may lead to. There is probably no set answer, but an over reaction, for the type of situation described, was more than likely what the antagonist would want, to demonstrate how unhinged we are. JMHO
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:25 am
by Tex1961
Something that I should add to the original post... This as in so many other of these types of situations were started by the perp removing, striping, knocking, etc the hat off of the victim.... So not only are we dealing with theft of property but at the very least simple assault.... Robbery????
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:27 am
by ninjabread
If they remove your hat from a table that's theft. If they remove your hat from your head that's robbery.
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:56 am
by cirus
What would I like to do? Back hand her and knock her grill out.

What would I do? Since she took my hat and wasn't giving it back I'd probably take her purse or cell phone. Eye for an eye.

Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:11 pm
by Flightmare
I'm not going to escalate an issue over something as trivial as a hat. I'm also not going to just let someone get away with robbery if I can do something about it. I would notify law enforcement and let them deal with the thief. I would also likely attempt to follow and record video of the person that could be used against them.
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:27 pm
by RPBrown
If it’s just a gimmy cap, I won’t escalate the issue past reporting it.
However, if it’s my dress cowboy hat, everyone in (Texas know you don’t mess with a mans hat) then it becomes a felony due to cost of hat. That and the fact it was a gift from my wife, I may go to the extreme.
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:20 pm
by WTR
Ball cap = no biggie
100 X beaver = problem
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:37 pm
by WildBill
Flightmare wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:11 pm
I'm not going to escalate an issue over something as trivial as a hat. I'm also not going to just let someone get away with robbery if I can do something about it. I would notify law enforcement and let them deal with the thief. I would also likely attempt to follow and record video of the person that could be used against them.

Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:18 pm
by Paladin
Its just a hat. I have too many of them already. But assault and battery would another thing entirely.
Re: Level of response
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:48 pm
by KC5AV
I'd hope I'd have the presence of mind to fall down on the ground and start waling like they had just knocked the slobber out of me...make a big scene, and get the police involved.