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Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:00 pm
by Tex1961
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:47 pm
by TreyHouston
House Bill 1177 by Rep. Dade Phelan (R-Beaumont) & Sen. Brandon Creighton (R-Conroe) protects citizens from being charged with a crime for carrying a handgun without a License To Carry while evacuating from an area during a declared state or local disaster, or while returning to that area, and allows shelters which are otherwise prohibited locations to decide whether to accommodate evacuees with firearms in their possession.
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Senate Bill 772 by Sen. Bryan Hughes (R-Mineola) & Rep. Drew Springer (R-Muenster) provides civil liability protection to business establishments which choose not to post 30.06/30.07 signs, making them less vulnerable to frivolous lawsuits and giving them an incentive to adopt permissive policies for the carrying of handguns by law-abiding citizens on their premises.
I like those two!!
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:25 pm
by anygunanywhere
So the state can limit liability if businesses don’t post. How about making businesses that post liable? Maybe next session.
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:50 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
anygunanywhere wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:25 pm
So the state can limit liability if businesses don’t post. How about making businesses that post liable? Maybe next session.
I've been promoting that for years, but it gets no traction.
Chas.
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:52 pm
by C-dub
Isn't there a lawsuit emerging from this?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-free-zon ... orney-says
Maybe we'll have to wait and see how this shakes out.
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:32 am
by anygunanywhere
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:50 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:25 pm
So the state can limit liability if businesses don’t post. How about making businesses that post liable? Maybe next session.
I've been promoting that for years, but it gets no traction.
Chas.
Thanks Charles.
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:31 am
by easy10
and HB 446 was signed by the Governor. That one surprised me just to see it filed, the knuckles bill.
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:41 am
by chasfm11
So what is the outcome of House Bill 1791? Will it have any real impact on the local government and associated groups hanging signs?
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:13 am
by Syntyr
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:50 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:25 pm
So the state can limit liability if businesses don’t post. How about making businesses that post liable? Maybe next session.
I've been promoting that for years, but it gets no traction.
Chas.
That's because it makes sense!
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:16 am
by oljames3
chasfm11 wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:41 am
So what is the outcome of House Bill 1791? Will it have any real impact on the local government and associated groups hanging signs?
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Hi ... ill=HB1791
Signed by the Governor 6/10/19. Effective 9/1/19.
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/86R/b ... navpanes=0
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:59 am
by KLB
chasfm11 wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:41 am
So what is the outcome of House Bill 1791? Will it have any real impact on the local government and associated groups hanging signs?
The bill's a good thing, but I doubt it will reach signs such as those universally posted by the City of San Antonio. Paraphrasing, they say carrying is banned unless otherwise authorized by law. That leaves you to figure out what the city might be doing in this place that could cause an exception to apply.
Keeping the citizenry in doubt about their rights is a feature, not a bug, of San Antonio's governing philosophy.
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:41 pm
by Vol Texan
Charles,
I'm looking forward to your 'country boy interpretation' of these bills for those of us with limited legal knowledge.
I know you've got your hands full with other 2A issues at this time, so I'm OK with waiting until you're ready to share your wisdom.
VT
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:54 am
by chasfm11
KLB wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:59 am
chasfm11 wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:41 am
So what is the outcome of House Bill 1791? Will it have any real impact on the local government and associated groups hanging signs?
The bill's a good thing, but I doubt it will reach signs such as those universally posted by the City of San Antonio. Paraphrasing, they say carrying is banned unless otherwise authorized by law. That leaves you to figure out what the city might be doing in this place that could cause an exception to apply.
Keeping the citizenry in doubt about their rights is a feature, not a bug, of San Antonio's governing philosophy.
Those who would seize our rights are tenacious at all levels. Somehow, we have to figure out how to break the stranglehold that they have on our largest cities.
Re: Governor Abbott Signs Ten Pro-Second Amendment Bills into Law
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:09 pm
by powerboatr
TreyHouston wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:47 pm
House Bill 1177 by Rep. Dade Phelan (R-Beaumont) & Sen. Brandon Creighton (R-Conroe) protects citizens from being charged with a crime for carrying a handgun without a License To Carry while evacuating from an area during a declared state or local disaster, or while returning to that area, and allows shelters which are otherwise prohibited locations to decide whether to accommodate evacuees with firearms in their possession.
And
Senate Bill 772 by Sen. Bryan Hughes (R-Mineola) & Rep. Drew Springer (R-Muenster) provides civil liability protection to business establishments which choose not to post 30.06/30.07 signs, making them less vulnerable to frivolous lawsuits and giving them an incentive to adopt permissive policies for the carrying of handguns by law-abiding citizens on their premises.
I like those two!!
really surprised Hughes put his name on anything. He is our guy both as a rep and now as a senator. cant believe he keeps getting re-elected. he is special
