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Walkabout In The Weminuche Wilderness

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:16 pm
by KLB
The link is to a blog post about trekking in the Colorado Mountains. That alone is fascinating, but he also mentions the weapon he carried, the modification he made to it, and related gear. All in all, a worthwhile read.
Travelling With Firearms, And The Stupidity Of The TSA

We don’t have any complaints against the TSA in Austin, TX. They seemed relaxed and not too puckered about guns, and used to seeing them.

Charlotte, no so much. The airline employees who used to check firearms now “feel uncomfortable” doing it, so call a TSA representative. The TSA employee who checked my gun actually seemed to know something about guns (he remarked that I had a chamber flag in the gun), but he was a bit puckered for my tastes.

He tried to pry open the box, got it a centimeter or two open on one end, and told me it didn’t meet TSA standards because the gun could be taken out of its box. I doubt it. I think he was exaggerating. Fortunately, I had a cable and another lock, so I wrapped the cable around the handle and locked it where he couldn’t pry it open at all. If I had not had the extra cable and lock I would have missed my flight.

Denver is just downright stupid. Checking a gun means having a airline employee take your luggage at a glacial pace to another room where it gets put through an X-Ray machine. She then asked if the gun was unloaded and locked, to which we said “yes,” and then she lets the same airline employee take your luggage back to a conveyor. At this point he slams it down on the conveyor and walks away leaving the luggage there unattended. Joseph and I decided to stay with our luggage until the belt started a little later moving our luggage behind the wall. We weren’t going to walk away until we saw that our luggage had disappeared.

I would have loved to ask the TSA lady what she thought she was looking for. If this is like every other airport, every piece of luggage is X-Rayed. But what she accomplished besides the typical X-Ray every piece of luggage gets is beyond me. All she did was ask us questions the airline employee could have asked. Our luggage was never opened, the gun was never inspected. Not, by the way, that I think the TSA regulations make any sense or it’s necessary for the gun to be in any certain configuration or inspected at all.

Let’s face it, folks. Since we are dropping off the luggage and we are picking it up, the only necessity for the luggage to be locked up is what happens behind the wall. The only good of locking up the gun is theft by airport employees. We know it, the TSA knows it, and the airlines know it. It’s the truth. None of this has anything to do with security. It’s all about airport theft by airline or airport employees.
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2018/08/ ... ilderness/

Re: Walkabout In The Weminuche Wilderness

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:12 pm
by anygunanywhere
KLB wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:16 pm The link is to a blog post about trekking in the Colorado Mountains. That alone is fascinating, but he also mentions the weapon he carried, the modification he made to it, and related gear. All in all, a worthwhile read.
Travelling With Firearms, And The Stupidity Of The TSA

We don’t have any complaints against the TSA in Austin, TX. They seemed relaxed and not too puckered about guns, and used to seeing them.

Charlotte, no so much. The airline employees who used to check firearms now “feel uncomfortable” doing it, so call a TSA representative. The TSA employee who checked my gun actually seemed to know something about guns (he remarked that I had a chamber flag in the gun), but he was a bit puckered for my tastes.

He tried to pry open the box, got it a centimeter or two open on one end, and told me it didn’t meet TSA standards because the gun could be taken out of its box. I doubt it. I think he was exaggerating. Fortunately, I had a cable and another lock, so I wrapped the cable around the handle and locked it where he couldn’t pry it open at all. If I had not had the extra cable and lock I would have missed my flight.

Denver is just downright stupid. Checking a gun means having a airline employee take your luggage at a glacial pace to another room where it gets put through an X-Ray machine. She then asked if the gun was unloaded and locked, to which we said “yes,” and then she lets the same airline employee take your luggage back to a conveyor. At this point he slams it down on the conveyor and walks away leaving the luggage there unattended. Joseph and I decided to stay with our luggage until the belt started a little later moving our luggage behind the wall. We weren’t going to walk away until we saw that our luggage had disappeared.

I would have loved to ask the TSA lady what she thought she was looking for. If this is like every other airport, every piece of luggage is X-Rayed. But what she accomplished besides the typical X-Ray every piece of luggage gets is beyond me. All she did was ask us questions the airline employee could have asked. Our luggage was never opened, the gun was never inspected. Not, by the way, that I think the TSA regulations make any sense or it’s necessary for the gun to be in any certain configuration or inspected at all.

Let’s face it, folks. Since we are dropping off the luggage and we are picking it up, the only necessity for the luggage to be locked up is what happens behind the wall. The only good of locking up the gun is theft by airport employees. We know it, the TSA knows it, and the airlines know it. It’s the truth. None of this has anything to do with security. It’s all about airport theft by airline or airport employees.
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2018/08/ ... ilderness/
They add a step at LAX. An LAPD officer runs your weapon serial number to see if it is stolen.

Re: Walkabout In The Weminuche Wilderness

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:28 pm
by KLB
anygunanywhere wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:12 pm They add a step at LAX. An LAPD officer runs your weapon serial number to see if it is stolen.
My bet is that d#@! few stolen weapons are checked as legitimate luggage. The cost-benefit ratio is surely off kilter with such checks, but equally surely their goal is to tweak around legitimate gun owners, not find stolen weapons.

Re: Walkabout In The Weminuche Wilderness

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:33 pm
by The Annoyed Man
anygunanywhere wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:12 pm
KLB wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:16 pm The link is to a blog post about trekking in the Colorado Mountains. That alone is fascinating, but he also mentions the weapon he carried, the modification he made to it, and related gear. All in all, a worthwhile read.
Travelling With Firearms, And The Stupidity Of The TSA

We don’t have any complaints against the TSA in Austin, TX. They seemed relaxed and not too puckered about guns, and used to seeing them.

Charlotte, no so much. The airline employees who used to check firearms now “feel uncomfortable” doing it, so call a TSA representative. The TSA employee who checked my gun actually seemed to know something about guns (he remarked that I had a chamber flag in the gun), but he was a bit puckered for my tastes.

He tried to pry open the box, got it a centimeter or two open on one end, and told me it didn’t meet TSA standards because the gun could be taken out of its box. I doubt it. I think he was exaggerating. Fortunately, I had a cable and another lock, so I wrapped the cable around the handle and locked it where he couldn’t pry it open at all. If I had not had the extra cable and lock I would have missed my flight.

Denver is just downright stupid. Checking a gun means having a airline employee take your luggage at a glacial pace to another room where it gets put through an X-Ray machine. She then asked if the gun was unloaded and locked, to which we said “yes,” and then she lets the same airline employee take your luggage back to a conveyor. At this point he slams it down on the conveyor and walks away leaving the luggage there unattended. Joseph and I decided to stay with our luggage until the belt started a little later moving our luggage behind the wall. We weren’t going to walk away until we saw that our luggage had disappeared.

I would have loved to ask the TSA lady what she thought she was looking for. If this is like every other airport, every piece of luggage is X-Rayed. But what she accomplished besides the typical X-Ray every piece of luggage gets is beyond me. All she did was ask us questions the airline employee could have asked. Our luggage was never opened, the gun was never inspected. Not, by the way, that I think the TSA regulations make any sense or it’s necessary for the gun to be in any certain configuration or inspected at all.

Let’s face it, folks. Since we are dropping off the luggage and we are picking it up, the only necessity for the luggage to be locked up is what happens behind the wall. The only good of locking up the gun is theft by airport employees. We know it, the TSA knows it, and the airlines know it. It’s the truth. None of this has anything to do with security. It’s all about airport theft by airline or airport employees.
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2018/08/ ... ilderness/
They add a step at LAX. An LAPD officer runs your weapon serial number to see if it is stolen.
Just ONE reason why I prefer to drive than fly to SoCal. At least I can be armed for all but 650 miles of the 3000 mile round trip if I drive. If I fly—which ONLY do if my grandkids are traveling with us—I end up just leaving the gun at home. I can’t carry it anywhere while I’m there; I don’t trust leaving it in my hotel room; and it’s just a hassle to jump through all of TSA's and LAPD's fascist hoops. But driving makes things a lot easier.