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License Restrictions

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:43 pm
by SigM4
Ok, so as I sit here in my fortress of solitude (aka. cubicle) I've started wondering whether any of this sites members, or anyone you know qualified for their CHL with a revolver? Thus, they would have the 'NSA' (non-semi auto) designation on their license. Just wondering as I don't think I've every meet/heard of anyone that did. If you did was there a reason for the choice?

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:49 pm
by Rokyudai
Interesting question posed Sig,

I will be awaiting the results and stories in my Fortress of Solitude...3rd bay of the garage.

I convinced 2 people to start applying for their CHL. One actually asked what gun to use...without hesitation I said semi-auto, and if they didn't have one, rent one from the range! It's just not worth the hastle to upgrade from NSA.

Re: License Restrictions

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:42 pm
by mcub
SigM4 wrote:Ok, so as I sit here in my fortress of solitude (aka. cubicle) I've started wondering whether any of this sites members, or anyone you know qualified for their CHL with a revolver? Thus, they would have the 'NSA' (non-semi auto) designation on their license. Just wondering as I don't think I've every meet/heard of anyone that did. If you did was there a reason for the choice?
I've always wondered why the state decided to have the two designations to begin with.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:42 pm
by seamusTX
Someone at DPS told me that maybe 1% of licenses were NSA.

- Jim

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:47 pm
by Crossfire
I have had several students qualify with revolvers. I make sure they understand the restrictions before they do so.

But, most of them have had physical limitations that make it impractical, if not impossible, to qualify with a semi-auto.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:24 pm
by VViper
PistolPete and I have been teaching CHL classes since October 1995. We have semiautos available to any student who wants to qualify with them. In all those years, we've had very few people who insisted on qualifying with a revolver. Those few essentially said they were familiar with their gun, and didn't see any need to change. It's hard to argue with that logic. As a wise man once said, "Beware the person with one gun... they probably know how to use it!"

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:26 pm
by grandpatim
Where I took my class you don't have the option to test with a revolver. If you don't have a semi-auto they loan you one to use.

Re: License Restrictions

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:21 pm
by Mithras61
mcub wrote:
SigM4 wrote:Ok, so as I sit here in my fortress of solitude (aka. cubicle) I've started wondering whether any of this sites members, or anyone you know qualified for their CHL with a revolver? Thus, they would have the 'NSA' (non-semi auto) designation on their license. Just wondering as I don't think I've every meet/heard of anyone that did. If you did was there a reason for the choice?
I've always wondered why the state decided to have the two designations to begin with.
I've been told that the supposed complexity of a semi-auto compared to the revolver was the basis for the distinction (that is, if you can operate a more complex machine like the SA, a revolver should be a piece of cake, but not necesarily the otehr way around).

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:21 pm
by AFJailor
they stopped making people qualify in North Dakota because a blind guy passed the qual...im not joking.


Im not sure how that relates to the poll...but Im just gonna post it here anyways.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:39 pm
by OnTexasTime
all four times I have qualified with borrowed 9mm auto's. My main carry was a Colt Det Spl for years, but I wanted the option to carry the larger 40 & 45 auto's I had with me.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:12 pm
by familyman
Can a person qualify with SA with a laser site/ pointer?

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
by Xander
familyman wrote:Can a person qualify with SA with a laser site/ pointer?
Where I took it, we were specifically told no, we could not. I don't know if that's was just a house rule, or if it's true everywhere.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:55 pm
by VViper
Xander wrote:
familyman wrote:Can a person qualify with SA with a laser site/ pointer?
Where I took it, we were specifically told no, we could not. I don't know if that's was just a house rule, or if it's true everywhere.
Unless your laser sight was deemed to have made your gun unsafe in some way, that appears to be just a house rule.

Regarding the guns that the CHL Instructor may use for their instructor certification, The Texas Administrative Code states:
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TITLE 37 PUBLIC SAFETY AND CORRECTIONS
PART 1 TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
CHAPTER 6 LICENSE TO CARRY HANDGUNS
SUBCHAPTER G CERTIFIED HANDGUN INSTRUCTORS
RULE §6.74 Inspection of Handguns

"Each handgun must be in safe and working condition. No handgun may have any internal modification which compromises the safety of the weapon. Handguns are subject to inspection by the department's instructors prior to training and at any time during the training course. If the instructor finds that a weapon is unsafe, then the instructor will reject the weapon for use in training and qualifications. The instructor may require that any handgun be secured or removed from department premises."

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In my instructor class, we were told to apply the same rule to our students. I don't recall any specific mention about laser sights being prohibited.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:06 pm
by Xander
WPoorman wrote:
Unless your laser sight was deemed to have made your gun unsafe in some way, that appears to be just a house rule.
It wasn't any specific laser sight, it was just a general prohibition on them after someone in the class asked if they could be used, so it much have been a house rule then.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:19 pm
by hoytinak
I qualified with my USP compact. Sometimes I feel like carrying the USPc or the P7 PSP but sometimes I just feel like carrying my SP101, just depends on the mood I'm in that day. ;-)