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I attended the Instructor Renewal class yesterday at DPS. It was a good day and they covered much.

First, did I mention how GREAT their range is?

I had misinterpreted the new length of license law. New applicants still receive a 4 year license, renewals get the 5 year.

Legal was asked about the DPS stance on the new presumption regarding the traveling exception in PC 46.15. She would not give a straight answer. From what I gathered by comments made by actual DPS Troopers, they will use discretion and all Troopers have been briefed on the new presumption. (bottom line is if you are behaving yourself and meet the traveling presumption you will be fine as far as DPS is concerned)

I specifically asked about carrying other weapons listed under 46.02 if a CHL holder is carrying both the CHL and handgun. Her answer was specific; it is NOT legal to carry other weapons and the exemption applies only to handguns. Persons caught carry illegal knives and clubs are subject to arrest unless they meet another exemption.

I asked licensing why they were not sending out renewal forms with expiration notices as required by statute. The girl said they didn't have to, so I read her the law. I got a blank look and she responded that its just the way they do it. I think I will write Colonel Davis a letter.

I also had the pleasure of meeting our own El Gato, who was at the class too. He is a great guy, and he will verify everything above.

Feel free to ask anything about the class. We covered a lot.

I would have loved to have seen the "blank look" on the renewal letter issue...

And it sounds to me like they don't yet know what exactly to do about that traveling exemption stuff either...

And let me get this straight, the 5 year license is only applicable to "renewals" and not initial or new licensees??? I mean thats good for some, but thats not the way it was sold to us if I recall correctly...

Looks like you covered most, if not all the big issues discussed in that last few months here...

Good job...

stevie_d_64 wrote:I would have loved to have seen the "blank look" on the renewal letter issue...

And it sounds to me like they don't yet know what exactly to do about that traveling exemption stuff either...

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This woman from Legal is a very left-leaning type. I gathered she just did not want to state what the LE division policy was. She really may not have known.

The troopers are quite aware of the law. The folks at the academy are very pro 2nd, and I imagine they are teachng the troopers properly. ;)

thanks for your inputs txinvestigator! It's good to know what's going on with the DPS.

stevie_d_64 wrote:And let me get this straight, the 5 year license is only applicable to "renewals" and not initial or new licensees??? I mean thats good for some, but thats not the way it was sold to us if I recall correctly...

It had to be done this way to maintain the NICS exemption. The CHL always expires on your birthday, with the initial expiration being on your first birthday four years after it was issued. If the five year license applied to initial CHL's, then the license would be good for more than five years and this would void the NICS exemption.

Regards,
Chas.

txinvestigator wrote:I attended the Instructor Renewal class yesterday at DPS. It was a good day and they covered much.

Thanks for the good information.
I too would have liked to see the blank expression from the left/liberal shedevil.

I got to meet txinvestigator and liked him right away, a very nice young man. I really wish we could have had time for a long visit but we were pushed for time all through the day.
Derrick, Riddle and Ripps gave very good classes again and were very pro CHL and the 2nd. as txinvestigator stated earlier.
I graded legal down, but it was on presentation and information, I tried very hard not to let issues get into my grades.

I am not going to have a class on the 29th so I can get to PSC and meet others on the Forum and plan to work on my class schedule so that I can make some other events at PSC and am not tied up every Saturday this next year.
Tomcat

One of you lucky TexasCHLforum.com instructors is due to get me and my wifes money when we renew this next time...

Nobody I have gone to in the past is doing it anymore???

Thanks for the report and good information.

I bet the look was priceless.

And it sounds to me like they don't yet know what exactly to do about that traveling exemption stuff either...

Please excuse the sarcasm, but I'm really glad this new law cleared up everything. It would seem that some understand, but most are more confused.

Chas, are you aware of any arrests under this new law?

dws1117 wrote:Thanks for the report and good information.

I bet the look was priceless.

And it sounds to me like they don't yet know what exactly to do about that traveling exemption stuff either...

Please excuse the sarcasm, but I'm really glad this new law cleared up everything. It would seem that some understand, but most are more confused.

Chas, are you aware of any arrests under this new law?

I'm sorta confused...But then again that law doesn't appear to mean anything to me because I've got the license...

We appear to be on the same cynical/sarcastic page concerning this law...Quick...Its your turn to turn the page this time...

stevie_d_64 wrote:

dws1117 wrote:Thanks for the report and good information.

I bet the look was priceless.

And it sounds to me like they don't yet know what exactly to do about that traveling exemption stuff either...

Please excuse the sarcasm, but I'm really glad this new law cleared up everything. It would seem that some understand, but most are more confused.

Chas, are you aware of any arrests under this new law?

I'm sorta confused...But then again that law doesn't appear to mean anything to me because I've got the license...

We appear to be on the same cynical/sarcastic page concerning this law...Quick...Its your turn to turn the page this time...

Nah, I'll just close the book. Like you, I have my permission slip. It's far easier. :D

dws1117 wrote:

stevie_d_64 wrote:

dws1117 wrote:Thanks for the report and good information.

I bet the look was priceless.

And it sounds to me like they don't yet know what exactly to do about that traveling exemption stuff either...

Please excuse the sarcasm, but I'm really glad this new law cleared up everything. It would seem that some understand, but most are more confused.

Chas, are you aware of any arrests under this new law?

I'm sorta confused...But then again that law doesn't appear to mean anything to me because I've got the license...

We appear to be on the same cynical/sarcastic page concerning this law...Quick...Its your turn to turn the page this time...

Nah, I'll just close the book. Like you, I have my permission slip. It's far easier. :D

I concur...

And isn't it sad that you NEED that "permission slip" for something that is constitutionally protected anyway?

Sorry, I tend to think that I understand the founding documents based on what is actually written there as opposed to the way interpritations of interpritations have gone...

Yes, it is sad. :x