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Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:18 pm
by 1wise1
Has anyone in this group Ever had a Glock Extractor failure?
Not heard of one, told of one, read about one ..... personally EXPERIENCED one.
OK .. I'll accept witnessing one in the next shooting lane.
The parts sellers (usual unnamed suspects) are pushing the fear factor again this week, "when your factory issued MIM Extractor finally fails, you will be out of the fight"
Price is up to around $70 bucks for a machined extractor... plus shipping etc...

What you spend (and what you spend on) is your and your wife's/husband's business. Did you bite on the fear factor advertising - or because your Glock rolled over and died right there in your hand? Obviously better it than you.

Don't be surprised if you find this posted a few other places.. I'm casting a wide net.
YES, by the way, I am a Certified Glock armourer... Nobody has ever come to me with this.

Re: Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:59 pm
by Soccerdad1995
I shoot around 100 rounds a month on average (some months much more, some less). Over 15 years or so of shooting, I have never had an extractor fail on any gun, including my Glocks. And I have never witnessed this either.

Re: Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:12 pm
by C-dub
I've had 4 Glocks and not an issue with either of them. I seem to remember there might have been a magazine issue at one time, but can't remember what.

when ANY extractor fails, you are out of the fight

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:19 pm
by flechero
Lots of companies make upgraded or improved parts... just because few glock extractors fail, doesn't mean the improved part isn't better or worth the asking price. Given enough time, neglect and round count, every gun will fail. Glocks are man made... therefore, sometimes they fail. If they didn't there would be no need for glock armorers, of which they are seemingly 10's of thousands. :lol: (no offense, just having fun)

Now to the actual question- I don't own a glock so I haven't personally experienced an extractor failure. I have however, seen several glocks fail both at the range and in training classes. I was not in the troubleshooting discussion so can't confirm what failed.

Re: Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:03 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
I have 6 Glocks, including a G17 I bought in 1986 and have never suffered an extractor failure. I did have an issue with the magazine catch on my G17 allowing magazines to come loose while firing but it was replaced and never happened again. I just figured it was due to wear and tear. Heck, it is 34 years old and many thousands of rounds down the pipe.

Re: when ANY extractor fails, you are out of the fight

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:38 am
by C-dub
flechero wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:19 pm Lots of companies make upgraded or improved parts... just because few glock extractors fail, doesn't mean the improved part isn't better or worth the asking price. Given enough time, neglect and round count, every gun will fail. Glocks are man made... therefore, sometimes they fail. If they didn't there would be no need for glock armorers, of which they are seemingly 10's of thousands. :lol: (no offense, just having fun)

Now to the actual question- I don't own a glock so I haven't personally experienced an extractor failure. I have however, seen several glocks fail both at the range and in training classes. I was not in the troubleshooting discussion so can't confirm what failed.
With as many Glocks that are out there and that there are bound to be failures with just about anything it wouldn't surprise me that there are that many Glock Armorers. It's just like with cars. Some folks swear by one brand or another without any issues, while others buy one of whatever and somehow get a lemon. They're out there. Probability is inevitable.

Re: Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:49 am
by strogg
I agree with everyone here. The truth is that yes, the extractor is probably the most common failure point of gen 3 and older Glocks. Heck, maybe even gen 4 and 5s. I dunno. But IMO it's a moot point. Sure, there are thousands of reports of those failing. But when you factor in that Glock has produced over 10 million pistols since the dawn of time... You do the math.

Re: Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:16 am
by parabelum
In almost 20 years of shooting various Glock models, from Gen1 to 5, I have never experienced that nor heard of anyone who has.
They are ugly but work like charm. :fire

Re: Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:36 am
by dhoobler
I had an extractor failure once in a Glock 23. I am convinced it was ammunition induced.

I was at an indoor range shooting their reman ammo. One round blew out the extractor. The gunsmith on site put it back together. The gun ran fine with factory ammo.

Re: Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:09 am
by AF-Odin
Have several Glocks and all have fired well into the thousands of rounds. The 19 probably well into the 10s of thousands of rounds. Never had an extractor failure. However, I did have an extractor break on an old Glenfield Model 75 .22. Found out that you should ALWAYS visually check the chamber to ensure nothing is still there after clearing. Luckily round went down range and nowhere else.

Re: when ANY extractor fails, you are out of the fight

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:24 am
by flechero
C-dub wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:38 am
flechero wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:19 pm Lots of companies make upgraded or improved parts... just because few glock extractors fail, doesn't mean the improved part isn't better or worth the asking price. Given enough time, neglect and round count, every gun will fail. Glocks are man made... therefore, sometimes they fail. If they didn't there would be no need for glock armorers, of which they are seemingly 10's of thousands. :lol: (no offense, just having fun)

Now to the actual question- I don't own a glock so I haven't personally experienced an extractor failure. I have however, seen several glocks fail both at the range and in training classes. I was not in the troubleshooting discussion so can't confirm what failed.
With as many Glocks that are out there and that there are bound to be failures with just about anything it wouldn't surprise me that there are that many Glock Armorers. It's just like with cars. Some folks swear by one brand or another without any issues, while others buy one of whatever and somehow get a lemon. They're out there. Probability is inevitable.
Don't mistake my comments- I'm not a glock basher, I just don't like the feel of them in hand and don't own any for that reason. (admittedly, I do grow tired of the hype sometimes) I'll never tell anyone they aren't good weapons. But ALL guns will fail when given enough time, wear or neglect... regardless of brand or design. :tiphat:

Re: when ANY extractor fails, you are out of the fight

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:53 am
by C-dub
flechero wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:24 am
C-dub wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:38 am
flechero wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:19 pm Lots of companies make upgraded or improved parts... just because few glock extractors fail, doesn't mean the improved part isn't better or worth the asking price. Given enough time, neglect and round count, every gun will fail. Glocks are man made... therefore, sometimes they fail. If they didn't there would be no need for glock armorers, of which they are seemingly 10's of thousands. :lol: (no offense, just having fun)

Now to the actual question- I don't own a glock so I haven't personally experienced an extractor failure. I have however, seen several glocks fail both at the range and in training classes. I was not in the troubleshooting discussion so can't confirm what failed.
With as many Glocks that are out there and that there are bound to be failures with just about anything it wouldn't surprise me that there are that many Glock Armorers. It's just like with cars. Some folks swear by one brand or another without any issues, while others buy one of whatever and somehow get a lemon. They're out there. Probability is inevitable.
Don't mistake my comments- I'm not a glock basher, I just don't like the feel of them in hand and don't own any for that reason. (admittedly, I do grow tired of the hype sometimes) I'll never tell anyone they aren't good weapons. But ALL guns will fail when given enough time, wear or neglect... regardless of brand or design. :tiphat:
Oh, I didn't think you were. I was only adding to what you brought up. :cheers2:

Re: Real Issue or Sales Pitch?

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:49 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I’ve only ever seen 2 extractor failures in my life. One was on a friend's mil-spec 1911 that developed a curled back edge on the claw (don’t know how else to describe it), and the other was a S&W .22 of my son's that actually entirely spit out its extractor, which got lost in the dirt somewhere.