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Louisiana reciprocity
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:32 pm
by oldboyshooter
My wife and I both have our CHL's. She is planning a business trip to New Orleans next month and was planning on taking her S&W 340PD (loaded with +P's, she can't shoot .357's out of it). I know the airport routine, but reading the Louisiana CHL laws, it seems she will be UNABLE TO TAKE HER GUN INTO ANY RESTAURANTS as they sell alcohol.
Is this true. In Texas, I realize we can not take our weapons into a bar where they derive 51% of their revenue from the sale of alcohol (and must post a sign stating same), but come on, a restaurant! That certainly defeats the whole purpose of having the license. I hope someone can tell me I am wrong, because she will be really upset.
Maybe the real answer, I AM GLAD I LIVE AND BREED IN TEXAS. LOL
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:38 pm
by gregthehand
When I moved here I asked an instructor and he said it was fine just as long as they didn't derive 51% from on site drinking, just like in Texas. Apparently the key is in the wording and what the different licenses to sell alchohol mean.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:49 pm
by anygunanywhere
I do recall that it is similar to Texas - you can not sit in the bar of a restaurant or any obvious bar packing. Restaurants that serve alcohol are fine.
Casinos are a no-no.
Packing Dot Org is down but you could try
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
Anygun
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:59 pm
by hirundo82
Looking at the
Louisiana code regarding concealed handguns:
N. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any of the following:
(10) Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.
(emphasis mine)
The "Class A-General retail permit" is defined
here; it appears to apply to establishments where serving alcohol is the primary business (ie bars). The permit issued to restaurants is, not surprisingly, a
Class A-Restaurant permit.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:43 pm
by KBCraig
Thanks for that link. According to the definition, if anyone under 18 is allowed in, it is not a Class A General.
Re: Louisiana reciprocity
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:53 am
by USMC-COL
oldboyshooter wrote:My wife and I both have our CHL's. She is planning a business trip to New Orleans next month and was planning on taking her S&W 340PD (loaded with +P's, she can't shoot .357's out of it). I know the airport routine, but reading the Louisiana CHL laws, it seems she will be UNABLE TO TAKE HER GUN INTO ANY RESTAURANTS as they sell alcohol.
Is this true. In Texas, I realize we can not take our weapons into a bar where they derive 51% of their revenue from the sale of alcohol (and must post a sign stating same), but come on, a restaurant! That certainly defeats the whole purpose of having the license. I hope someone can tell me I am wrong, because she will be really upset.
Maybe the real answer, I AM GLAD I LIVE AND BREED IN TEXAS. LOL
A bar in TX does not have to post to be off limits.
I was recently in NO and my understanding of the law is that any place that serves alcohol for consumption on the premises is off limits to concealed carry.
Re: Louisiana reciprocity
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:22 pm
by gregthehand
USMC-COL wrote:
A bar in TX does not have to post to be off limits.
I was recently in NO and my understanding of the law is that any place that serves alcohol for consumption on the premises is off limits to concealed carry.
That is incorrect.
Re: Louisiana reciprocity
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:01 pm
by USMC-COL
gregthehand wrote:USMC-COL wrote:
A bar in TX does not have to post to be off limits.
I was recently in NO and my understanding of the law is that any place that serves alcohol for consumption on the premises is off limits to concealed carry.
That is incorrect.
Please provide a reference. I am not beyond being corrected.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:38 pm
by cbr600
At the risk of repeating what hirundo82 wrote:
http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html#prohibited
Re: Louisiana reciprocity
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:47 pm
by gregthehand
USMC-COL wrote:gregthehand wrote:USMC-COL wrote:
A bar in TX does not have to post to be off limits.
I was recently in NO and my understanding of the law is that any place that serves alcohol for consumption on the premises is off limits to concealed carry.
That is incorrect.
Please provide a reference. I am not beyond being corrected.
Read above.
hirundo82 wrote:Looking at the
Louisiana code regarding concealed handguns:
N. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any of the following:
(10) Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.
(emphasis mine)
The "Class A-General retail permit" is defined
here; it appears to apply to establishments where serving alcohol is the primary business (ie bars). The permit issued to restaurants is, not surprisingly, a
Class A-Restaurant permit.
It has to do with what kind of permit they have issued. I have asked a few instructors about this and emaled the Louisiana State Police division that handles issuing the license and they said that as long as they don't have the license that is expresly handed out to bars only then your ok.
Re: Louisiana reciprocity
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:50 pm
by USMC-COL
gregthehand wrote:USMC-COL wrote:gregthehand wrote:USMC-COL wrote:
A bar in TX does not have to post to be off limits.
I was recently in NO and my understanding of the law is that any place that serves alcohol for consumption on the premises is off limits to concealed carry.
That is incorrect.
Please provide a reference. I am not beyond being corrected.
Read above.
hirundo82 wrote:Looking at the
Louisiana code regarding concealed handguns:
N. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any of the following:
(10) Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.
(emphasis mine)
The "Class A-General retail permit" is defined
here; it appears to apply to establishments where serving alcohol is the primary business (ie bars). The permit issued to restaurants is, not surprisingly, a
Class A-Restaurant permit.
It has to do with what kind of permit they have issued. I have asked a few instructors about this and emaled the Louisiana State Police division that handles issuing the license and they said that as long as they don't have the license that is expresly handed out to bars only then your ok.
Thanks for the correction and education.