Carry in a relatives house?

jbirds1210 · Post by **jbirds1210** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:05 pm

Many of us will be travelling to stay with relatives during the holidays. I just wondered what the majority of you guys do when travelling to another person's home that is not comfortable with you having a weapon in their residence.
Please do not have a heart attack, but I do not take my weapon into my in-laws home in Oklahoma. I know how the feel about guns and about their presence so I choose to leave it in the car.
I understand that this could be a don't ask, don't tell situation in most cases....I just wanted to know what you all think! Thanks.

dws1117 · Post by **dws1117** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:14 pm

I am the same. It's just better to leave it in the car than to cause problems.

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:35 pm

I will be 1st since my Father-in-law feels the same way. He is one that hates the NRA because they want to make it legal for "anyone" to walk down the street carrying an Uzi. (He would not know one if he saw it & that is another thread) When we go to his house I wear it in & keep it on my person until I lay down at night. The wife puts her purse on top of the refrigerator & at the back so it is under the cabinet also. He would have a heart atach if he knew she had one.

I might add that the wife's sister is a more raving liberal than F-in-L. I get hugs from her & all the family & have never been made on carry in the house. If it was in the car he would not like that much better. Use an IWB holster & keep it at 3:00 & your elbow tight against your side will cover it every time. I carry a Kimber Compac. There are larger but it is no mouse gun. When I get up in the morning it goes on & stays until bedtime again. When I shower it is on the floor w/ my pants. That way there is never a security question. No one can "find it" in a suitcase, or opening the trunk, or where every you put it. Better, no one can steel it. In the car it can be. If your wife does not have a CHL there are possible issues if she wants to go to town. You sure can't let anyone else use the car if you are behind every one & they cant get out. I have decided that if my F-inL ever tells me I can't bring it in I will remind him that he has admitted that he has 2 pistols & "they are both loaded just in case". I will unload & take mine out of its safe storage place (strong side 3:00 under shirt) & put it in the truck as soon as he is willing to remove his from it safe storage place, unload it, & put it in his truck. All responses will be very polite & courteous with out sarcasm. If I am then told to do it I will have to go to my Bro-in-law's. Like you I hold my FinL in the highest regard. I do not declare everything I bring in his door as we arrive. I do not bring up the subject. They are too easy to keep on your person & never let anyone know. OK, you asked & that is what I do. travel safe & love your F-in-L.

HighVelocity · Post by **HighVelocity** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:20 pm

My parents live in Nevada. :x No reciprocity.

anygunanywhere · Post by **anygunanywhere** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:27 pm

Carry deep concealment.

Most of my family know I pack, and they do not have a problem. I pack around the wife's family for reasons we will not discuss here.

Texas law makes it illegal to pack where verbal notice is given.

Then, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:34 pm

If they've specifically asked me not to carry, then we'll have a choice to make about where to spend the holidays. But I wouldn't carry in their home against their explicit wishes.

Just a note: if you're visiting Arkansas, their rules for concealed carry require you to announce that you're carrying before entering another person's home, and to secure permission.

Kevin

yerasimos · Post by **yerasimos** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:46 pm

+1 on the deep concealment. Handguns worn in belt holsters, both IWB & external, are way too easily found by huggy people, bump-friskers, etc. The holidays are another reason to put together and practice using a plan B, non-IDPA-compliant armory.

Also, remember just because you cannot pack your handgun(s) does not mean you are completely defenseless. Never leave home without the weapon between your ears, and woe to the person who would try to relieve you of that, no matter which state, city or country you visit.

stevie_d_64 · Post by **stevie_d_64** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:48 pm

We don't call the meeting place for our family the "Northern Texas Compound" for nothing...

We were all taught early on to unload and stack arms when we came in the door up there...

My Grandfather used to say, "If a man points a gun at ya, knock 'im down, and then ask him if its loaded or not!"

ehhh, you had to be there when he told it...

jimlongley · Post by **jimlongley** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:18 pm

My only family members in TX know I carry "all the time" and nothing is ever said about it.

A few months ago we were at my brother in law's house and his son, my nephew, decided hee wanted to talk about whatever I was carrying that day. Since I was just a few days out of my shoulder surgery I wasn't carrying anything, but my wife was. I didn't bother to tell him.

When my brother in law's parents in law are in town, we are very careful not to mention that my bride and/or I are armed, they are very old and might have a heart attack or something. Very anti-gun, both of them, and authoritarian too, if you try to use any sort of arguement on them, no matter how logical, they just smile and nod with one of those "But I know better because I am the parent." attitudes. New Yorkers, and I wish they would stay up there with their foreign exchange senator.

jbirds1210 · Post by **jbirds1210** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:14 am

I would like to issue the first AMEN to the foreign exchange senator....both of them.

Lumberjack98 · Post by **Lumberjack98** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:48 am

dws1117 wrote:I am the same. It's just better to leave it in the car than to cause problems.

+1 for me on this one. It's just easier. My Mom would flip.

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:35 am

If I am wearing pants I am carrying. However, I do not broadcast that to friends/family.

We are in Corpus today thru Friday. Last night we had dinner with a friend of my wife's and her new fiance. We had never met him before and after dinner we went back to his house to visit and for the guys to have a cigar.

I kept the fact that I was carrying to myself until he took me to a locked closet, opened his gun safe and showed his dozen rifles and half dozen pistols.........

Regarding family...I am my own man, and unless my parent specifically told me not to carry in their residence I would/do carry.

OverEasy · Post by **OverEasy** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:29 pm

Holidays would be great if you didn't have to waste them visting relatives.

Several years ago I wore my buttpack to moms. She wanted me to take it off and leave it at the house, she didn't want me to wear it around town. She didn't want people to think I was gay! She explained to me that it was what "people call a fagbag". Now she knows that some people use them for holsters. That was a mistake! Example; one of her friends stopped by the house and as she introduceded us she said " my son's not gay, he has a gun in there". Also now when we walk around town and she spots somebody with a buttpack she points them out and we have to listen to her analysis of whether they could be gay or carring a gun.

Back to the question at hand. I'm not going to leave it in the car. I use my Smart Carry. Nobody ever knows. If I was in another person's home and they said they don't allow firearms in the house, just out of the blue, in a conversation, I wouldn't say a thing. If they asked me pointblank for my position on the subject I would tell them the truth or lie, depending on who it was. I don't want to be anyplace I can't protect myself if I have any choice about it.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!
OE

RPBrown · Post by **RPBrown** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:25 am

The reason I carry is to protect my family. Had 4 generations here for the holiday and all went shopping on friday( not my idea of fun but the women folk rule). Daughter made comment that someone would be crazy to try something with us. 9 people and 10 firearms. didn't know my mom and dad carried even though they knew I did. Son in law and 4 of my kids carry. They were suprised that my wife and I carried.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:21 pm

rule #1 of carrying a firearm: KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!

there is absolutely no reason to tell someone you are carrying a firearm. i routinely wear one just about everywhere, but i think my wife is the only one who knows i do. what exactly do you gain by going around telling people you are armed? the best time for someone to find out you are armed should be the same instance you've made up your mind that you are probably going to have to shoot this person.

someone asks if i carry a gun, i just tell them "sometimes" and change subjects.