Doctors asking about guns?

[The Wall]

Double post.

[The Wall]

If it's not illegal to own firearms how could it be against the law to lie to your doctor about it. I don't care if they are sending the information to the Feds. You actually think the Feds are going to read every doctors application and forms. They don't even read the FFL forms you fill out when purchasing a gun. Some folks need to take out their tin foil hats. I think the doctors that do ask questions have their own agenda. Seems like from what I've read here that more doctors don't ask than do. That tells me there is no law requiring it.

Yada, yada, yada....any suggestion of possible government wrong doing means someone is wearing a "tin foil hat." What a tiresome refrain....about as thoughtful as calling someone who opposes Obama a "racist."

Seriously?...this is the new America. You can go to jail for taking your own money out of your own bank account in the wrong amounts. Say you have direct deposit and take $2,000 of cash out of your account every month --because you want to have cash for whatever reasons and need the rest of the money in your account for expenses. After 3 months you'll have taken out $6,000. Oops, you avoided the $5,000 reporting requirement...that's called "structuring." People have been prosecuted for doing just that. Not everyone by any means....the prosecutions are either highly random or selective.

Then we have crimes like "constructive possession" where you own items that are all perfectly legal to own but could be combined to create an object that is illegal. You can go to jail for that too.

It is a crime to lie on some government forms. You can be prosecuted for lying to get your child into a public school outside your zipcode: http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/show ... brien.html It's a felony to lie to get into the military, and you can go to jail for lying on a medical application: http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All- ... pplication

Still, note I said it may not be a crime "yet" (I don't really know) --many things are possible in this country today that would have been inconceivable 30 years ago. However, your statement indicates that you don't understand how laws like this work. They don't check every form and they aren't going to. So, for the sake of argument, let's assume it is illegal...you can probably lie and not get caught because they're not checking and can't. You only get prosecuted like the pilot in the article above, when something happens that results in your application or form being checked.

It's the same way gun bans work in places like the UK and New York. The government isn't likely to match 4473s and they're not going to come knocking door to door if they make owning unregistered "assault" weapons illegal. But if something happens, like your home is broken into, or you use a gun in self-defense and they discover you have an unregistered "assault" weapon....THEN you get prosecuted.

Yada, yada, yada yo! What a tiresome refrain. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Were you named anywhere in my post? Your reply suggest I was talking about you. If the tin foil hat fits wear it. Was just my point of view and opinion.

[JALLEN]

Mark Twain wrote a very enlightening, and entertaining, short essay entitled "On the Decay in the Art of Lying."

It would be beneficial for us to review that now and periodically at reasonable intervals hereafter, so as to keep us "in fighting trim" on this universal and essential, and most human, practice. It is available online, free for ease of perusal, and downloadable onto Kindles and other such devices for convenience of reference.

[VMI77]

If it's not illegal to own firearms how could it be against the law to lie to your doctor about it. I don't care if they are sending the information to the Feds. You actually think the Feds are going to read every doctors application and forms. They don't even read the FFL forms you fill out when purchasing a gun. Some folks need to take out their tin foil hats. I think the doctors that do ask questions have their own agenda. Seems like from what I've read here that more doctors don't ask than do. That tells me there is no law requiring it.

Yada, yada, yada....any suggestion of possible government wrong doing means someone is wearing a "tin foil hat." What a tiresome refrain....about as thoughtful as calling someone who opposes Obama a "racist."

Seriously?...this is the new America. You can go to jail for taking your own money out of your own bank account in the wrong amounts. Say you have direct deposit and take $2,000 of cash out of your account every month --because you want to have cash for whatever reasons and need the rest of the money in your account for expenses. After 3 months you'll have taken out $6,000. Oops, you avoided the $5,000 reporting requirement...that's called "structuring." People have been prosecuted for doing just that. Not everyone by any means....the prosecutions are either highly random or selective.

Then we have crimes like "constructive possession" where you own items that are all perfectly legal to own but could be combined to create an object that is illegal. You can go to jail for that too.

It is a crime to lie on some government forms. You can be prosecuted for lying to get your child into a public school outside your zipcode: http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/show ... brien.html It's a felony to lie to get into the military, and you can go to jail for lying on a medical application: http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All- ... pplication

Still, note I said it may not be a crime "yet" (I don't really know) --many things are possible in this country today that would have been inconceivable 30 years ago. However, your statement indicates that you don't understand how laws like this work. They don't check every form and they aren't going to. So, for the sake of argument, let's assume it is illegal...you can probably lie and not get caught because they're not checking and can't. You only get prosecuted like the pilot in the article above, when something happens that results in your application or form being checked.

It's the same way gun bans work in places like the UK and New York. The government isn't likely to match 4473s and they're not going to come knocking door to door if they make owning unregistered "assault" weapons illegal. But if something happens, like your home is broken into, or you use a gun in self-defense and they discover you have an unregistered "assault" weapon....THEN you get prosecuted.

Yada, yada, yada yo! What a tiresome refrain. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Were you named anywhere in my post? Your reply suggest I was talking about you. If the tin foil hat fits wear it. Was just my point of view and opinion.

Yes, in retrospect not the best response. What I should have said was if you have nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear, so why lie? Nobody wants to take your guns. Nobody cares how many guns you have except tin foil hat wearing gun nuts.