ONE-TWO shooting tip

[hangfour]

Greetings ... a friend of mine who has had a CHL for a long time and is a "crack shot" suggested that I might try the "ONE-TWO Shooting Method":
http://www.best9mm.com/shootingtip.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Any comments on this? Does anyone out there do this? Thanks.

[El_Tortuga]

Nice. I
'll have try it.

[fecnik]

it seems logical...keeps one from thinking too much thus keeping the shooter from anticipating the recoil as well. Ill try it this weekend.

[longtooth]

I will give it a try on some students that stay on target too long.
Thanks.
LT

[68Charger]

I'll say it in spanish. :)

[cougartex]

Thanks, will give it a try.

[NOS]

I've been using this method without even knowing I was . I don't have the trigger pull issues that most people do. I have great independent finger control and dexterity from being a musician for so many years. So, instead of thinking about all the steps with the trigger pull, I just count 1-2 like stated in the article. I'm not the greatest shot, but I manage to get consistent 3"-5" groups using my G19 without a rest at 50' . I really think that this method takes all of the over-thinking out of shooting, and lets your body make the fine adjustments on it's own.
I also use this method while hunting with my rifle without a rest. The longer you wait with a rifle the less stable you are without a rest (take the rifle off of safety, take a deep breath, exhale, line up the cross hairs, make sure you slowly squeeze and not pull, and add to that nerves. If you have too much hesitation going on at this point, you will have an even greater chance of blowing the shot IMHO) Without a rest, the shot never gets better with time.
I'm glad to see that this method is incorporated by others. I was starting to think that I was alone in my thinking and my shooting practices.
I'm curious to see how this method works for everyone here who decides to give it a try. Please post updates on your results.

[hangfour]

I tried the one-two count technique today with both my 9mm and 38 special (50 rounds each). I certainly did not shoot as tight a pattern as I 'normally' do but my speed was much much better. The patterns were 'good enough' to get the job done. The first 10 or so rounds were low probably because I was squeezing the trigger before I was up to the bulls-eye. After that things just continued to improve. I'm eager to try it again tomorrow. I'll post again soon on this topic.

[gwashorn]

I understand the reasoning for this teaching method as stated. I have always found if I pull up to the target and fired when on, I do better. Same reasoning. Had to learn to do this years ago shooting fast moving floating cans in the Brazon river back in A&M days of the 70's. Those cans moved fast and bobbed a lot so hitting them was tough.

Gary

[hangfour]

Went out to a friends ranch today and tried the one-two shooting tip for the second time. I saw quite an improvement over the first time I tried it! The patterns with both my 9mm semi-automatic and my 38 special revolver were tighter than the first time. Again I was shooting faster than I ever have before. My last five shots with the 38 special snub-nose were all within 2.5 inches of the center of the target at seven yards. For some reason speeding up the sight alignment and squeezing process helps me see the front sight more clearly. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen the smoke come out of the barrel so clearly (I could see the cartridge eject too). I'm going to the range monday night to watch my wife shoot. She is going to try the 1-2 tip herself. I'll let you all know how it went.

[srothstein]

I like this technique and have used it in the past when teaching. BUT there are two caveats that I wanted to point out.

The first is the most important. This is training yourself to shoot everytime you have a target. If you do this enough, you will do it for real in a shooting (which is the whole idea). But there are lots of times when we draw and aim and may not be justified in shooting (the BG drops his gun as you draw yours, for example). Practice this technique but also practice drawing and getting on target and then not shooting. It will help teach you that not every draw ends up in a shoot.

Yes, this is not quite as important for a CHL as for a police officer, but even a CHL can end up shooting too late after the fact in a few cases.

The second is a minor quibble with the double tap technique. It really should be one two one two not just one two two. There is a delay between shots when you come back on target. This technique will really speed up your second shot as it reminds you to come back on target and then squeeze the trigger.

I have personally always had the same quibble with double taps that I mentioned above (is the second shot really necessary) but the courts have never seemed to ask this question.

Of course, I have also said that if deadly force was justified there is no such thing as too much force, but I wasn't really serious in recoommending that as an official policy.

[gringop]

This is an example of what is called the "Trick of the Day". The TOTD is not a new technique or improvement in shooting but is something that occupies your conscious mind and keeps doubts and hesitation from creeping in and interfering with your shooting, as the author indicates below.

"Why does the ONE TWO method work? It keeps you from thinking too much and removes indecision."

The TOTD is not bad per se, but the effect tends to wear off as you get used to it. Then you have to find another TOTD to occupy your brain again. That could be a shiny new fiber optic front sight, memonics like "ONE,TWO"or "Front Sight, Press" or anything else that keeps your conscious attention.The ultimate solution is to train enough be confident in your shooting and not need any TOTD.

I'm not telling folks to not use "ONE, TWO" to help improve their shooting, just understand what it's doing and what to expect if it stops working.

Gringop

[TDDude]

I have personally always had the same quibble with double taps that I mentioned above (is the second shot really necessary) but the courts have never seemed to ask this question.

[xiuximu]

I found out it will be more accurate if I don't yell out 'one' before I remove the trigger slack and then yell any number such as
'one, two or three' if I only have 3 bullets in my magazine before pulling the trigger. This way I only shoot whenever I call a number and I will be ready before I call a number. I've got a pretty good grouping with that modified 'one-two' technique.

[FastCarry]

I use the One Nine One One trick. In my early days, my groups would struggle, anticipation, losing my grip, never finding a stance that felt normal. I just thought shooting was that hard.

I recently started the One Nine One One routine. My groups have improved greatly, also the fun of shooting has returned which I'm thrilled about. I find follow up shots much easier, I've been able to keyhole double taps on multiple occasions with 9mm and .45acp.

If you want to try the One Nine One One routine, I'll lay out the steps below:

1. Buy a 1911
2. Go shoot it

Edit: if you read my recent posts, you'll know this method has plenty of down sides and can get frustratingly expensive and time consuming