Dallas County DA Susan Hawk
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Dallas County DA Susan Hawk
Disclaimer: This is NOT a post meant to start a political battle of any kind. Period. Rather a question of the authority granted to a person who has shown they are not necessarily stable.
Does anyone know if DA Hawk is legally able to purchase a firearm? A quick google search showed she's been in a psychiatric hospital at least twice now (that I found) for depression. She's also been to rehab for prescription drug abuse. Do any of y'all know if she's still qualified to be a firearm owner?
It seems to me that someone with these kinds of problems would not be allowed the authority she has. She has peoples lives in her hands after all...
Also, I would think that a prohibited firearms person would not be able to hold a position with that kind of authority. Especially if she's prosecuting people for firearms related crimes when she herself might not be able to own one. Maybe I'm way off base here in my thinking, or maybe not.
And I am not bashing her in any way either. I just think she has a lot of authority for a person who seems pretty unstable.
I'm curious as to how y'all feel about this...
Does anyone know if DA Hawk is legally able to purchase a firearm? A quick google search showed she's been in a psychiatric hospital at least twice now (that I found) for depression. She's also been to rehab for prescription drug abuse. Do any of y'all know if she's still qualified to be a firearm owner?
It seems to me that someone with these kinds of problems would not be allowed the authority she has. She has peoples lives in her hands after all...
Also, I would think that a prohibited firearms person would not be able to hold a position with that kind of authority. Especially if she's prosecuting people for firearms related crimes when she herself might not be able to own one. Maybe I'm way off base here in my thinking, or maybe not.
And I am not bashing her in any way either. I just think she has a lot of authority for a person who seems pretty unstable.
I'm curious as to how y'all feel about this...
Last edited by Ryan on Wed May 25, 2016 3:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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I have been wondering how she has kept her position, she was AWOL for a while no one knew where she was, then she has, as you noted been in an out rehab, mental health facilities etc. I feel she does need help, but I think the prudent thing for her to do would be to resign and allow someone more capable, at this time, to do the job. JMHORyan wrote:Disclaimer: This is NOT a post meant to start a political battle of any kind. Period. Rather a question of the authority granted to a person who has shown they are not necessarily stable.
Does anyone know if DA Hawk is legally able to purchase a firearm? A quick google search showed she's been in a psychiatric hospital at least twice now (that I found) for depression. She's also been to rehab for prescription drug abuse. Do any of y'all know if she's still qualified to be a firearm owner?
It seems to me that someone with these kinds of problems would not be allowed the authority she has. She has peoples lives in her hands after all...
Also, I would think that a prohibited firearms person would not be able to hold a position with that kind of authority. Especially if she's handing down sentences for firearms related crimes when she herself might not be able to own one. Maybe I'm way off base here in my thinking, or maybe not.
And I am not bashing her in any way either. I just think she has a lot of authority for a person who seems pretty unstable.
I'm curious as to how y'all feel about this...
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Re: Dallas County DA Susan Hawk
In my opinion, she is unfit to serve. But then again, so is Rosemary Lehmberg. 

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It's an elected position. Presumably the people that elected her should decide whether she's fit or not. I suppose there's an impeachment/recall type process for an elected DA.
What I don't want is the Federal government arbitrarily deciding who is to crazy to obtain a firearm. If someone is such a danger to themselves and others that they are to be treated as a felon, then they should be involuntarily committed to treatment.
What I don't want is the Federal government arbitrarily deciding who is to crazy to obtain a firearm. If someone is such a danger to themselves and others that they are to be treated as a felon, then they should be involuntarily committed to treatment.
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I didn't comment on the firearm ownership issue, because, to me, the bigger picture is that she makes serious, life changing, decisions in her position. I agree that there should be a recall election, if she refuses to step down, which from all indications, she has refused to do. I know that most people believe they can handle those kinds of issues, and still maintain their positions, and, maybe for some, it is possible. But I think with the type of position she holds and the decisions she makes, the public would be better served with someone else. I have no dog in the hunt, I don't live in Dallas county, but I do travel into it occasionally, and I would hate to think that my fate could rest in the hands of someone who may not be fully functional. I am not a healthcare, or psychological, professional, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn express last night, but I believe that she should be replaced.JMHO
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Exactly THIS.Jusme wrote:I didn't comment on the firearm ownership issue, because, to me, the bigger picture is that she makes serious, life changing, decisions in her position. I agree that there should be a recall election, if she refuses to step down, which from all indications, she has refused to do. I know that most people believe they can handle those kinds of issues, and still maintain their positions, and, maybe for some, it is possible. But I think with the type of position she holds and the decisions she makes, the public would be better served with someone else. I have no dog in the hunt, I don't live in Dallas county, but I do travel into it occasionally, and I would hate to think that my fate could rest in the hands of someone who may not be fully functional. I am not a healthcare, or psychological, professional, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn express last night, but I believe that she should be replaced.JMHO

Like I said, this is twice now that she's gone to a mental institution. Someone with this severe of depression, or any mental illness, can NOT be given the authority to make the decisions she makes regarding other people. Being that upset/sad/depressed, or worse, will no doubt have a major impact on your decision making process. And when those decisions deal with humans and their life and or freedom....
I just hope she is able to get the help she needs.
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I did not know the DA handed down sentences, I thought the judge or/with jury did that. At least that is the way it is done here.Ryan wrote:Disclaimer: This is NOT a post meant to start a political battle of any kind. Period. Rather a question of the authority granted to a person who has shown they are not necessarily stable.
Does anyone know if DA Hawk is legally able to purchase a firearm? A quick google search showed she's been in a psychiatric hospital at least twice now (that I found) for depression. She's also been to rehab for prescription drug abuse. Do any of y'all know if she's still qualified to be a firearm owner?
It seems to me that someone with these kinds of problems would not be allowed the authority she has. She has peoples lives in her hands after all...
Also, I would think that a prohibited firearms person would not be able to hold a position with that kind of authority. Especially if she's handing down sentences for firearms related crimes when she herself might not be able to own one. Maybe I'm way off base here in my thinking, or maybe not.
And I am not bashing her in any way either. I just think she has a lot of authority for a person who seems pretty unstable.
I'm curious as to how y'all feel about this...
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Interesting topic. 

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She doesn't hand down sentences but she is expected to exercise her prosecutorial (sp?) discretion judiciously and that is a cause for concern in my opinion.twomillenium wrote:I did not know the DA handed down sentences, I thought the judge or/with jury did that. At least that is the way it is done here.Ryan wrote:Disclaimer: This is NOT a post meant to start a political battle of any kind. Period. Rather a question of the authority granted to a person who has shown they are not necessarily stable.
Does anyone know if DA Hawk is legally able to purchase a firearm? A quick google search showed she's been in a psychiatric hospital at least twice now (that I found) for depression. She's also been to rehab for prescription drug abuse. Do any of y'all know if she's still qualified to be a firearm owner?
It seems to me that someone with these kinds of problems would not be allowed the authority she has. She has peoples lives in her hands after all...
Also, I would think that a prohibited firearms person would not be able to hold a position with that kind of authority. Especially if she's handing down sentences for firearms related crimes when she herself might not be able to own one. Maybe I'm way off base here in my thinking, or maybe not.
And I am not bashing her in any way either. I just think she has a lot of authority for a person who seems pretty unstable.
I'm curious as to how y'all feel about this...
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Then that is what should have been said. You had me believing that county was way more screwed up that it seemed.TresHuevos wrote:She doesn't hand down sentences but she is expected to exercise her prosecutorial (sp?) discretion judiciously and that is a cause for concern in my opinion.twomillenium wrote:I did not know the DA handed down sentences, I thought the judge or/with jury did that. At least that is the way it is done here.Ryan wrote:Disclaimer: This is NOT a post meant to start a political battle of any kind. Period. Rather a question of the authority granted to a person who has shown they are not necessarily stable.
Does anyone know if DA Hawk is legally able to purchase a firearm? A quick google search showed she's been in a psychiatric hospital at least twice now (that I found) for depression. She's also been to rehab for prescription drug abuse. Do any of y'all know if she's still qualified to be a firearm owner?
It seems to me that someone with these kinds of problems would not be allowed the authority she has. She has peoples lives in her hands after all...
Also, I would think that a prohibited firearms person would not be able to hold a position with that kind of authority. Especially if she's handing down sentences for firearms related crimes when she herself might not be able to own one. Maybe I'm way off base here in my thinking, or maybe not.
And I am not bashing her in any way either. I just think she has a lot of authority for a person who seems pretty unstable.
I'm curious as to how y'all feel about this...
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Twomillenium- It is now fixed.
My bad. I'm sure you knew what I meant. And I'm also pretty sure you know that DA's don't hand down sentences. I hope you accept my sincerest apologies for my obvious oversight.
My bad. I'm sure you knew what I meant. And I'm also pretty sure you know that DA's don't hand down sentences. I hope you accept my sincerest apologies for my obvious oversight.
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In a large office, 98% of cases are handled without DA involvement. But yes in high-profiles cases and DP cases the DA is responsible for most decisions.TresHuevos wrote: She doesn't hand down sentences but she is expected to exercise her prosecutorial (sp?) discretion judiciously and that is a cause for concern in my opinion.
IMO the office is in better hands when she is not there.
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I was messing with you and I was hoping you didn't think the DA handed down sentences. Even plea deals have to be judge accepted.Ryan wrote:Twomillenium- It is now fixed.
My bad. I'm sure you knew what I meant. And I'm also pretty sure you know that DA's don't hand down sentences. I hope you accept my sincerest apologies for my obvious oversight.
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I have an associate that's one of her second in command. I am sure they are and have been in the past providing fair justice.
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I don't think the OP is concerned with the seconds in command. It is the Command he is concerned about.Deitz83 wrote:I have an associate that's one of her second in command. I am sure they are and have been in the past providing fair justice.
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