AR pistol
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Re: AR pistol
3 Items you need:
1. AR Pistol Upper - Anything under 16 inch barrel is considered a pistol. Think about this. Moving this directon in 5.56 you will lose a lot of power going down to a 9 or 10 inch barrel. 5.56 in that length barrel becomes a big noise maker.
2. AR Pistol Buffer tube
3. And most importantly research the legal implications. If you purchased that AR15 as a complete rifle that lower is considered a rifle lower and slapping a pistol upper on it is manufacturing a short barrel rifle. That requires forms and 200 tax to the ATF and yada yada yada lots of red tape. Failure to comply is a felony.
1. AR Pistol Upper - Anything under 16 inch barrel is considered a pistol. Think about this. Moving this directon in 5.56 you will lose a lot of power going down to a 9 or 10 inch barrel. 5.56 in that length barrel becomes a big noise maker.
2. AR Pistol Buffer tube
3. And most importantly research the legal implications. If you purchased that AR15 as a complete rifle that lower is considered a rifle lower and slapping a pistol upper on it is manufacturing a short barrel rifle. That requires forms and 200 tax to the ATF and yada yada yada lots of red tape. Failure to comply is a felony.
Syntyr
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Re: AR pistol
I should be ok then with my Ar because I ordered the upper and lower at the same time but it wasn't as a full rifle. I picked which upper and lower I wanted then had them shipped. The lower had to be shipped to an ffl and they told me it was qualified as a pistol. Then when my upper came in I slapped them together.
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Re: AR pistol
You are mistaken.
If you purchased the lower and built it as a pistol first, then you can convert it to a rifle.
However, as you just admitted, you built it as a rifle first you cannot convert it to a pistol.
If you purchased the lower and built it as a pistol first, then you can convert it to a rifle.
However, as you just admitted, you built it as a rifle first you cannot convert it to a pistol.
Re: AR pistol
If, at any time after purchasing the lower, you assembled a rifle upper... it is a rifle and cannot be used as a pistol lower without the ATF tax stamp for SBR.
Furthermore, if the lower was ever assembled with a buttstock (by you or the manufacturer), it cannot be used as a pistol lower...
To qualify for a AR pistol, the lower must have been purchased as a 'virgin' lower, never assembled and marked on the FFL paperwork as 'firearm' or 'other'...
I'm not a lawyer, but I've built a few AR pistols... You'll probably spend more time doing research than actually assembling the firearm...
Play it by the book, and remember,
Once a rifle, always a rifle...
And, document your build and keep good records...
Decent article from 2013... keep in mind the recent ATF updates regarding how the lower is 'marked'...
http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2013/11/20 ... nceptions/
Furthermore, if the lower was ever assembled with a buttstock (by you or the manufacturer), it cannot be used as a pistol lower...
To qualify for a AR pistol, the lower must have been purchased as a 'virgin' lower, never assembled and marked on the FFL paperwork as 'firearm' or 'other'...
I'm not a lawyer, but I've built a few AR pistols... You'll probably spend more time doing research than actually assembling the firearm...
Play it by the book, and remember,
Once a rifle, always a rifle...
And, document your build and keep good records...
Decent article from 2013... keep in mind the recent ATF updates regarding how the lower is 'marked'...
http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2013/11/20 ... nceptions/
Re: AR pistol
Well fudge lol. Thank you guys for the info and knowledge and letting me know how to go by the book correctly!! Time to do some research!