Weak hand draw.

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How long to draw your weapon with weak hand?

2-5 seconds.
24
55%
6-9 seconds.
7
16%
10 seconds or longer.
2
5%
Can not reach my weapon.
11
25%
 
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Weak hand draw.

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If you need to draw your weapon "weak hand only", how long does it take you from your normal mode of concealment (standing position) ?

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Post by RKirby »

Uh-oh, seems I have a problem......I can't reach it with my weak hand. :shock:

Actually, I've never tried to draw from the strong side weak handed until just now. I have shot weak handed many times and am comfortable with my accuracy, but it was always starting with the gun on a table or from the low ready position.

I might have to reconsider my 4:00 carry position........
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Um, is our strong hand usable even if not dexterously, as in to help reverse the inital upside-down grip of the weak hand? Or are we standing, strong arm completely disabled? I can switch the grip by holding the gun between my legs, but it'd be faster if my strong hand worked a little...
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Skiprr wrote:Um, is our strong hand usable even if not dexterously, as in to help reverse the inital upside-down grip of the weak hand? Or are we standing, strong arm completely disabled? I can switch the grip by holding the gun between my legs, but it'd be faster if my strong hand worked a little...

Strong side hand and arm below elbow are completely disabled.

"Weapon drawn" means weapon properly oriented in weak hand and held in at least a retention position, regardless of how you get it there.
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I suppose I should post my own response.

From a horizontal shoulder rig (concealed) just over 2 seconds to present the weapon and disengage safety.

I am not comparing modes of carry here, just wondering how many can even reach their weapon....and how long it takes to do so.

Many of us practice weak hand shooting, but I doubt many have considered if they can draw that way (in time to do any good).
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Somewhat to my suprise I can not reach my weapon in its usual carry location with my weak side hand. It shouldn/t really be that much of a suprise to me as my range of motion is limited by arthritis. Extra circumference in the waist area does not help either. I may need to rethink carry position especially since I think current position is contributing to hp pain. I may expierament with cross draw.

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flintknapper wrote:I suppose I should post my own response.

From a horizontal shoulder rig (concealed) just over 2 seconds to present the weapon and disengage safety.
I put on my Miami Classic (vertical carry with forward cant) just to try. Virtually no chance of me getting the gun out weak-hand only, without fumbling it, and righting it to shoot in under six seconds...if at all. My shoulders don't rotate that way.

I carry at almost spot-on three o'clock, FBI cant, strong-side hip. I know the typical is closer to 4:00, but on my body that conceals less well than at 3:00. From there, I can get the pistol, right it between my legs, and remove the safety and bring it on target in about three seconds.

And I'm glad my neighbors couldn't see me trying that...
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Ever seen a dog chase its tail???

I just did a good impression of one... :lol:
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bauerdj wrote:Somewhat to my suprise I can not reach my weapon in its usual carry location with my weak side hand. It shouldn/t really be that much of a suprise to me as my range of motion is limited by arthritis. Extra circumference in the waist area does not help either. I may need to rethink carry position especially since I think current position is contributing to hp pain. I may expierament with cross draw.

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Cross draw does have a bit of an advantage that way - I haven't timed myself, but I can actually do the "cavalry draw" with my weak hand and have the muzzle on target a bit faster than I can right-handed. My favorite holster is a right-handed pancake holster with only a slight cant, worn "backwards" on my left hip.
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One quick statement:

Those who can not reach their weapon at all, (or even those who take a long time doing so), please do NOT consider relocating your weapon for sake of weak hand draw only.

Chances are....you will never need to present your weapon with your weak hand. Strong side carry IMO is probably best for most people under most conditions.

I am just curious how many of us are "disadvantaged" if we did need to draw weak hand.

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Skiprr wrote:
flintknapper wrote:I suppose I should post my own response.

From a horizontal shoulder rig (concealed) just over 2 seconds to present the weapon and disengage safety.

I put on my Miami Classic (vertical carry with forward cant) just to try. Virtually no chance of me getting the gun out weak-hand only, without fumbling it, and righting it to shoot in under six seconds...if at all. My shoulders don't rotate that way.

I carry at almost spot-on three o'clock, FBI cant, strong-side hip. I know the typical is closer to 4:00, but on my body that conceals less well than at 3:00. From there, I can get the pistol, right it between my legs, and remove the safety and bring it on target in about three seconds.

And I'm glad my neighbors couldn't see me trying that...

Yup,

Horizontal fixes that.
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Post by RKirby »

Well, after playing with this for a while I figured out a way to draw.

Before I was trying to go around my back to reach the grip. Even with my long arms I couldn't do it. hence the vote "cannot reach my weapon".

However, if I reach across my belly I can grip the rear of the slide with two fingers and pull it out of the holster. I then have to fumble and juggle the pistol to obtain the proper grip. It seems like it took 5 minutes, but was actually probably less than 1 minute.

It's do-able, but I don't look forward to doing it with a loaded weapon in the middle of an armed confrontation.
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This happens to be something I have practiced, and although I cannot claim to be proficient, I can make it work.
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Wife Unit just saw me trying this...

Her reaction...

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stevie_d_64 wrote:Wife Unit just saw me trying this...

Her reaction...

:headscratch :smilelol5: :rolll :leaving
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