Old Gun Refinish
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- JakeTheSnake
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Old Gun Refinish
I inherited a FN Model 1900 32ACP from my father, actually he gave it to me before he passed. He picked it up back in the late 60's. Its in pretty good shape considering its age and who knows what its been through or where its been. If it could talk, can you imagine the stories?!
Its finish has quite a bit of wear and the grips are hard, one is slightly warped.
It still shoots flawlessly and has never jammed or miss feed a round. It is a real easy carry, smooth and fits in a front pocket very comfortably.
My question is what do you think about having it refinished and some new grips made? Would it be worth it? I know its not a highly collectible or valuable pistol with 700k produced, but its priceless to me. Every time I pick it up I think of pop.
What say y'all?
Kind of a cool piece of history.
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Its finish has quite a bit of wear and the grips are hard, one is slightly warped.
It still shoots flawlessly and has never jammed or miss feed a round. It is a real easy carry, smooth and fits in a front pocket very comfortably.
My question is what do you think about having it refinished and some new grips made? Would it be worth it? I know its not a highly collectible or valuable pistol with 700k produced, but its priceless to me. Every time I pick it up I think of pop.
What say y'all?
Kind of a cool piece of history.
Internet pic.
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Re: Old Gun Refinish
Me personally? It's a piece of history. Don't mess with it. Just maintain it well, shoot it, enjoy it, but don't modify it in any way that isn't quickly and easily reversible.
I have my dad's WW2 sidearm - a 1943 Ithaca 1911A1. It's got about 95% of its finish. Somewhere along the way in its USMC career, one of the grip-screw bushings got stripped in the frame, so you can thread the grip screw into the bushing, but the bushing turns free in the frame. It has an "idiot mark". The bore has significant pitting for the 1/2" back from the muzzle. The only things I've done to it are to add an 18 lb recoil spring and a polymer buffer pad on the guide rod. I did those things to protect the gun when I shoot it using modern ammunition, because once in a while, I do take it to the range and shoot it. But I still have the original recoil spring, and I can remove the buffer pad and reinstall the original spring to return the pistol to "as issued" condition; and I've resisted all temptation to do something like cerakoting it, rebarreling it, etc. Whenever I'm tempted to tart it up, I remember what the man who carried it before me had to endure, and it just doesn't seem right.........and yet there were MANY more WW1/WW2 era 1911s manufactured than your little FN. So my personal opinion is predicated along the lines of "will refinishing your gun, and replacing the stocks, somehow disconnect you from your dad's memory"? Replacing the stocks is a reversible modification, as long as you keep the originals. But refinishing the gun is a whole other animal. Once you do it, the original finish is gone for good. So tread lightly.
That 1911 is one of two firearms I keep in honor of my dad, the other being a 1943 vintage Inland M1 carbine like the one he carried ashore at Iwo Jima. I am sometimes temped to tart up the M1 too. I've thought of adding a hand guard with a scout rail so I can mount a red dot sight on it, and maybe swapping out the stock for a "paratrooper" model with the folding buttstock — both of which modifications would make it an ideal little "truck gun". But the little gem means too much to me in its original form, so I keep it as is.
You might find this video informative and entertaining. The pistol is a Beretta instead of an FN, but it is from the same era, and it is a .32:
https://youtu.be/pMKYal5Tles
I have my dad's WW2 sidearm - a 1943 Ithaca 1911A1. It's got about 95% of its finish. Somewhere along the way in its USMC career, one of the grip-screw bushings got stripped in the frame, so you can thread the grip screw into the bushing, but the bushing turns free in the frame. It has an "idiot mark". The bore has significant pitting for the 1/2" back from the muzzle. The only things I've done to it are to add an 18 lb recoil spring and a polymer buffer pad on the guide rod. I did those things to protect the gun when I shoot it using modern ammunition, because once in a while, I do take it to the range and shoot it. But I still have the original recoil spring, and I can remove the buffer pad and reinstall the original spring to return the pistol to "as issued" condition; and I've resisted all temptation to do something like cerakoting it, rebarreling it, etc. Whenever I'm tempted to tart it up, I remember what the man who carried it before me had to endure, and it just doesn't seem right.........and yet there were MANY more WW1/WW2 era 1911s manufactured than your little FN. So my personal opinion is predicated along the lines of "will refinishing your gun, and replacing the stocks, somehow disconnect you from your dad's memory"? Replacing the stocks is a reversible modification, as long as you keep the originals. But refinishing the gun is a whole other animal. Once you do it, the original finish is gone for good. So tread lightly.
That 1911 is one of two firearms I keep in honor of my dad, the other being a 1943 vintage Inland M1 carbine like the one he carried ashore at Iwo Jima. I am sometimes temped to tart up the M1 too. I've thought of adding a hand guard with a scout rail so I can mount a red dot sight on it, and maybe swapping out the stock for a "paratrooper" model with the folding buttstock — both of which modifications would make it an ideal little "truck gun". But the little gem means too much to me in its original form, so I keep it as is.
You might find this video informative and entertaining. The pistol is a Beretta instead of an FN, but it is from the same era, and it is a .32:
https://youtu.be/pMKYal5Tles
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Re: Old Gun Refinish
What do you think your Pop would have done?
If it would honor his memory to freshen it up, then go for it.
I have a Webley Mk VI in .45 made in 1917, that was the first handgun I ever owned, got it in '68 or '69. Carried it with me while driving tractor on the farm. It still shoots fine, but it's pretty much a brown gun now, and I plan on doing some ding removal, polishing and re-bluing. I'm not worried about the change in value of it, as it's not worth that much anyway, and it will go to my son eventually.
If it would honor his memory to freshen it up, then go for it.
I have a Webley Mk VI in .45 made in 1917, that was the first handgun I ever owned, got it in '68 or '69. Carried it with me while driving tractor on the farm. It still shoots fine, but it's pretty much a brown gun now, and I plan on doing some ding removal, polishing and re-bluing. I'm not worried about the change in value of it, as it's not worth that much anyway, and it will go to my son eventually.
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Re: Old Gun Refinish
Renaissance wax will protect the existing finish. New grips are a good idea, just keep the old ones.
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Re: Old Gun Refinish
I would like to chime in here as well. While it may not be collectable now, that can easily change. I remember a time when M1's with matching number in very good condition were available for $70 and great condition M1s would set you back $95, now try to find one with matching numbers in any condition for a reasonable price. I know people who can say the same thing about Milsurp 1911s as well.
Should you decide to have it refinished I can recommend Tyler Gun Works in Friona Texas, I have known Bobby for quite a while and he does very nice work. Not only does he do Bluing but he does other finishes as well (such as Color Case Hardening and is used by more than one manufacturer for that service). He uses a gentleman in Amarillo for engraving if you want that done as well.
Should you decide to have it refinished I can recommend Tyler Gun Works in Friona Texas, I have known Bobby for quite a while and he does very nice work. Not only does he do Bluing but he does other finishes as well (such as Color Case Hardening and is used by more than one manufacturer for that service). He uses a gentleman in Amarillo for engraving if you want that done as well.
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Re: Old Gun Refinish
I agree with TAM,
You say the gun reminds you of your Pop, so getting it prettied up, just to have a shinier gun, probably won't give you the same feeling. Whether or not it will increase or decrease the resale value, is irrelevant as you have already said it is priceless, to you. Keep it clean and maintained, only modify it if it is for funtionality sake. JMHO
You say the gun reminds you of your Pop, so getting it prettied up, just to have a shinier gun, probably won't give you the same feeling. Whether or not it will increase or decrease the resale value, is irrelevant as you have already said it is priceless, to you. Keep it clean and maintained, only modify it if it is for funtionality sake. JMHO
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Re: Old Gun Refinish
If it were mine I would simply clean it, leaving the original finish and put new grips on it, but save the old grips. Apply what ever rust proofing/lubricant you favor to the surfaces after handling. Don't store it in a holster or any case that has foam or other material that would hold moisture. I would recommend a silicone impregnated pistol sock. The patina on old weapons contribute to their aesthetic value in my opinion and could also retain and maybe even increase it's value as time goes on.
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Re: Old Gun Refinish
puma guy wrote:If it were mine I would simply clean it, leaving the original finish and put new grips on it, but save the old grips. Apply what ever rust proofing/lubricant you favor to the surfaces after handling. Don't store it in a holster or any case that has foam or other material that would hold moisture. I would recommend a silicone impregnated pistol sock. The patina on old weapons contribute to their aesthetic value in my opinion and could also retain and maybe even increase it's value as time goes on.

Also, even if the little gun does fit in a pocket well, I would not try to turn it into a carry gun. It's certain to rust/degrade quickly if you do that, and you'd be better served looking for a recent-model mouse gun if you want a pocket carry...not just to preserve the FN, but more importantly for safety. For example, drop-tests for imported firearms didn't begin until the Gun Control Act of 1968. To my knowledge, even the famous Ordnance Department torture test in 1911 to select a new U.S. Army sidearm didn't include drop-testing. (In fact, I don't know when the U.S. military began including drop-testing...a trivia item to research.)
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Re: Old Gun Refinish
Yeah, y'all are right. It looks how it's supposed to look.
Probably just find some reproduction grips to save the originals from more wear and tear. Maybe another magazine.
Probably just find some reproduction grips to save the originals from more wear and tear. Maybe another magazine.