You just can't hack it kid!

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Re: You just can't hack it kid!

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rotor wrote:On another post we are talking about constitutional carry. There are some people that just should not carry, ever.

I hear you. I think some people just can't handle it. I'm from a state that had constitutional open carry, we never had any issues but you never know. I'm all for constitutional carry. Back home it was the cops who were shooting their own feet.
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Re: You just can't hack it kid!

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flechero wrote:Transition to an air soft and role play... you play him and when you sweep him, "accidentally" pull the trigger and leave a welt on him. 3-4 good welts ought to illustrate your point.
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Re: You just can't hack it kid!

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We had some time to kill this summer between off-road events and spent a week at the Clark County Sports Shooting Complex (full RV hookups @ $20/day) in North Las Vegas. Huge complex with trap, sporting clay's, archery, pistol and rifle ranges. They get a bunch of tourists wanting to shoot since they rent long guns and handguns so that makes it quite a challenge for their RSOs.

Since we've never shot there before, we had to watch a ~10 minute video on range safety and get a card signed. We then presented the card to the RSO between rifle and pistol ranges and they would assign us a lane depending on how far we wanted to shoot. After watching their video I was a bit confused on their very strict protocol - shoot for 20 minutes, then unload, magazine out, chamber locked back and point muzzle downrange, check targets for 10 minutes, repeat. During the 10 minute break you cannot approach your shooting table or you will get yelled at by one of the sub-RSOs :nono: . Considering how many lanes they have, I felt very safe shooting there.

When we got there, we told our lane RSO we were new. He thought we were new shooters and I said we were very experienced but new to the range. I could see him relax and we chatted for a few seconds and he left us alone. At first I thought the 20/10 minute cycle (or whatever it was) was going to suck big time but it actually worked out really well. We shot every day, sometimes 2x a day. Dear wife even took a shotgun lesson (first time she ever handled a shotgun) and managed to break 3 out of 25 clays with a 28 gauge. Actually that was pretty good shooting considering the small pattern of the 28. I was afraid a 12 gauge or even a 20 would be too much for her to handle.

If you are ever in the area, check it out. They even have a small eatery on premises. We'll try to schedule some time for it next year.
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Re: You just can't hack it kid!

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While I'm always happy to bring a newbie into the fold, and have introduced and taught a goodly number of folks to respect and safely handle firearms, I have a VERY STRICT guiding principle; I DON'T WANT TO DIE BECAUSE ANYONE AROUND ME WASN'T TAUGHT, OR REFUSES TO LEARN HOW TO RESPECT AND HANDLE A FIREARM!!! Woo feeling better now;) I grew up in a very rural community in southern Indiana. I grew up in the woods and on farms helping wherever I could and hunting everything that was in season. My dad taught me from the time I got the gleam in my eye looking at his guns about THE RULES (everyone here knows them) and DRILLED INTO MY LITTLE BRAIN that you never even point a toy gun at anything you don't mean to kill. The old man, may he rest in peace, taught me well.

SO, the ONE (and only) time I went into the woods for a quick squirrel hunt with my best friend who's family owned one of the farms we used to hunt on. Now, I'm thinking that since he actually grew up on that land that HIS dad had taught him THE RULES. Turns out, not so much. As we walked through the field heading toward the woods, I was walking in front of him, and when I looked back, he was carrying his loaded .22 rifle in his hands, swinging it around, sweeping me and everything else around. I said, "hey John, sling your rifle, it's pointing at me". He looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about, but after I asked him again, he slung the rifle over his shoulder.

All is good again as we get to the woods and start working our way in. I will NEVER forget the moment; we're moving slowly and quietly along a path through the woods toward the unmistakable sound of a squirrel gnawing on an acorn; I'm in the lead, and he is directly behind me. I can see a bit of the squirrel on the back side of the tree up ahead, so I'm thinking we'll run the old "I walk past the tree and the squirrel will slide around the back side of the tree so you can shoot him" (yup, learned that from the old man too;). As I turn to let him in on the plan, I notice he's already looking at the tree, rifle in hand, finger on the trigger, POINTED DIRECTLY AT THE BACK OF MY HEAD...... Don't need to elaborate further about what happened next, but from that "teaching moment", I became VERY particular about with whom I hunt, and developed the above mantra in working to teach friends who want to "learn to shoot guns".

Given that, I always start folks with unloaded guns AWAY from a range to teach THE RULES and the basics about the REVOLVER we're going to shoot (pistols are ADVANCED machines for newbies). Ranges tend to get folks really excited to burn some powder and most of them find it VERY difficult to pay attention; that's how bad things happen. After I'm satisfied that they're comfortable with the weapon and the situation, we'll go to the range. Things will either progress from there, or not... I LOVE bringing new folks into shooting, but won't risk my life to do so :tiphat:

Oh, and I NEVER take the lead dog spot on a hunt.... :lol:
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