Glock 19 SUCKS!

[cmgee67]

lol I'm kidding it doesn't suck it's my favorite handgun and my concealed carry piece. Who else carries it?

Sorry about the title I had to get your attention

[Soccerdad1995]

I used to carry a G19. It was my EDC for the first year that I had my CHL. If I was buying my first gun now, I would probably pick a CZ75 instead, but a G19 is a good option.

[Skiprr]

lol I'm kidding it doesn't suck it's my favorite handgun and my concealed carry piece. Who else carries it?

Sorry about the title I had to get your attention

Thought you had become a staunch SIG devotee?

I haven't EDC'd a Glock in many years, but when I'm speaking to someone about buying their first handgun--after talking about grip and "feel," natural point of aim, intended use, and firearm safety experience level--I almost always suggest a G19 as one they try out at the range. A very practical NATO 9mm round that's readily available and relatively inexpensive; Glock 9mm magazines that are interchangeable among Glocks and also other brands and even carbine models (conversation always includes the G17 and G26, and points out that the G43 doesn't fit that bill); ease of maintenance and availability of parts (including many parts that are interchangeable with the G17); and Glock's legendary ruggedness.

As much a fan as I am of my 1911s (owned those before Gaston delivered the first G17s to the Austrian Army) and .45 ACP, in an emergency bug-out situation it's the G17 and 9mm that are going with me if I can have only one handgun.

[cmgee67]

I love sig but got back to glock because that's where my heart and roots are

[MadMonkey]

Glock 19 was one of my first pistol purchases back when I was about 17. I got rid of it because I thought it was unreliable (I didn't realize at the time that ammo had such an effect on reliability, and I was using craaaaaaap).

I came full circle after a while, after purchasing many, many pistols... multiple 1911s, HKs, FNHs, Taurus, Kahr, Ruger, S&W, Berettas, and many others. Tried Glock again maybe 6-7 years ago and realized they're actually pretty great. Now my BUG is a G42, CC is a G19 and OC is a G17, with plans to buy 3 more for a total of 7

My other pistols have mostly disappeared.

[The Annoyed Man]

I love sig but got back to glock because that's where my heart and roots are

Finally! You were starting to sound like a newly reformed ex-smoker!

My EDC > Gen 4 G19 with 2 spare mags.

[LucasMcCain]

The vast majority of the time I'm carrying a Gen 4 G19 with a spare G17 mag or two.

[G26ster]

"Ford is bettery than Chevy!"

"No, Chevy is better than Ford!"

"No, Ford is better than Chevy!"

"No, Chevy is better than Ford!"

[Nuts]

Sorry I just don't get the glock thing.

Granted they are reliable and accurate.

But, they have....

Polymer sights with a bad sight picture.

Trigger that sucks.

Looks and feels like 2 1x2's stuck together.

Unsupported chamber that's hard on brass.

Over priced

They do have a good aftermarket. But that's because they need it.

There are many polymer frame pistols that are every bit as reliable and accurate with better ergos, sights, triggers and price.

[KurtFTW]

"Ford is bettery than Chevy!"

"No, Chevy is better than Ford!"

"No, Ford is better than Chevy!"

"No, Chevy is better than Ford!"

They're both better than Dodge!

[cmgee67]

I will agree stock glock sights suck. I have found the gen 3 triggers better than the gen 4 in my experience. The triggers are no 1911 trigger but they are consistent and predictable. I upgraded the sights on mine gen 3 19 that I carry but can be just as accurate with the stock sights. Glock does not fit everybody's hand that's just the nature of it. To me it feels like home. Others will go towards S&w m&p pistols which I don't care for at all. Ever smith I have ever handled sucked to me and I hated the trigger not to mention were jam machines. But others say they never have a problem. Glock on the other hand have never let me down. My 19 I carry has around 2K rounds through it and it has never failed not one time. You don't find many stories or of a glock failing. You do however in the smith semi autos. They need to stick to what they do best and that's revolvers. I know you were not talking smith in particular but when you said better options for the price I was thinking of them. I don't think Glock is over priced. You get what you pay for and that's reliability.

[Smokey613]

I am glad the world is full of Glock fanboys, it keeps the good feeling pistols more available and reasonbly price. :) Truthfully, they are good reliable pistols, too bad they don't fit my hands. I can't shoot a Glock very well and yet, I carry one everyday on duty but it is not by choice. As for Smith & Wesson pistols being unreliable, you can't prove it by me. The most reliable semi-autos I have ever shot / owned have been a Model 39, a model 3913 and now my Shield 45 which I would not trade for a box full of Glocks if I had to keep them and not trade/sell them for some S&W pistols.

[Lena]

Like my 19 2nd gen-------- LOVE my 2nd gen 32

[The Annoyed Man]

I am glad the world is full of Glock fanboys, it keeps the good feeling pistols more available and reasonbly price. :) Truthfully, they are good reliable pistols, too bad they don't fit my hands. I can't shoot a Glock very well and yet, I carry one everyday on duty but it is not by choice. As for Smith & Wesson pistols being unreliable, you can't prove it by me. The most reliable semi-autos I have ever shot / owned have been a Model 39, a model 3913 and now my Shield 45 which I would not trade for a box full of Glocks if I had to keep them and not trade/sell them for some S&W pistols.

Funny thing is, I'm not really your typical fanboy. My favorite pistols are still a couple of 1911s that I own. I also own, and have carried a M&P45. I also own, and like, and used to carry an XDM and XDS .45. I used to own and carry a HK USP Compact .40 ......and then there was a Kahr PM9 I carried for a while, not to mention 3 different S&W J-frame snubbies I've owned and carried.

All perfectly good pistols. The reason Glocks became my primary.....heck, virtually only carry guns is that Glock just makes it too easy. Yes, they are ugly.....if you're the kind of person who needs a proper steel gun to find it attractive. Yes, their grips are fat (although in all fairness, the Gen4 guns have pretty much remedied that). No, the grip angle and related ergonomics aren't for everybody (although in all fairness, revolvers can be that way for some people too, and 1911s are that way for some other people as well). But the Glock has this going for it: it isn't a fashion statement; it's a tool.....one which performs its function with a great deal of reliability and acceptable combat accuracy. As far as what I would call "tier 1" self defense pistols go, it's a fair amount cheaper than other competing brands in that market. That's not to say that the others are bad guns at all, but simply to say that Glock successfully competes against those brands, at a lower price point. If you disagree, for instance, that the Glock 19 is a "tier 1" quality of combat pistol, take it up with both Army Special Forces, MARSOC, and if I'm not mistaken, the SEAL teams.....because they've all recently adopted the G19 to replace their M9s, Sigs, and 1911s. Sure price had something to do with that decision, but it would not have prevailed if it couldn't perform up to that level of expectation. Please note that I was already owning and carrying 9mm Glocks before those service branches decided to adopt them for issue to special operations personnel, so my purchase decision wasn't driven by their purchase decision. However..... My decision was based on exactly the same kind of factors that drove the military's purchase decision - the desire for a commonly available 9mm polymer framed double stack gun that would perform reliably at an affordable price. Glock made the decision too easy to ignore. I will say that I was gratified to see that the nation's premier service units did a much more extensive evaluation than my own, and came up with a decision that affirms my decision, and for generally speaking, the same reasons.

I think the one thing I had to get used to at first with Glocks was the much different grip angle. But it wasn't THAT big of a deal to get used to; and I am now able to transition pretty seamlessly between my Glocks and all of my other pistols sharing the 1911 grip angle, without any apparent trouble. It just isn't as big of a deal as some people say it is.

Also, partly because they are so utilitarian looking and not really very handsome guns, the thought of cosmetic damage to one of my Glocks just doesn't upset me that much. I'd call it patina, rub a little oil on it, and call it good.......whereas inflicting a big scratch on one of my 1911s would hurt me in my heart. And while I'm not into throwing money away, it would hurt my feelings a lot less to have one of my Glocks stolen......or confiscated by police in the event of my involvement in a shooting.....than it would if it were one of my more valuable special pistols.

As far as the OEM sights go......meh. It's a non-issue. I have changed the sights on almost any pistol I've ever owned, so swapping out the OEM Glock sights for an upgraded set just isn't that big of a deal to me.

So for me, it isn't that I'm as much a fanboy, its more that I finally realized that, on a purely practical level, buying Glocks is a sound decision at a good price. If I have any part of my self-image tied up in owning Glocks, it isn't in the pistols themselves as much as it is in having made a really smart and practical decision.

Between my wife and me, we now own 2 19s, 2 43s, and one 17. I'm going to buy a 26 next.

[Liberty]

I hate Glocks for only one reason, their success. I like the traditional DA/SA with hammer and manual safety. Ruger has all but abandoned the concept, while most all the other venders are buying into the DA striker fired with no manual safety.
It's as though the industry has turned our choices into 1911 or Glock only world.