Does anyone has the new bravo DOS Torsion Holster?

[fernando1027]

I am wanting to buy one but it does make the difference or not? please if anyone has pictures of the difference will be great :D



I think i did put it on the right forum...

[WTR]

I am wanting to buy one but it does make the difference or not? please if anyone has pictures of the difference will be great :D



I think i did put it on the right forum...

They do have nice pics on their web site.

[fernando1027]

I am wanting to buy one but it does make the difference or not? please if anyone has pictures of the difference will be great :D



I think i did put it on the right forum...

They do have nice pics on their web site.

indeed but not on them D: or i did not see them..

[WTR]

I am wanting to buy one but it does make the difference or not? please if anyone has pictures of the difference will be great :D



I think i did put it on the right forum...

They do have nice pics on their web site.

indeed but not on them D: or i did not see them..

https://www.bravoconcealment.com/produc ... 1157790797

When I scrolled down they have several pics of the holster being worn.

[fernando1027]

I am wanting to buy one but it does make the difference or not? please if anyone has pictures of the difference will be great :D



I think i did put it on the right forum...

They do have nice pics on their web site.

indeed but not on them D: or i did not see them..

https://www.bravoconcealment.com/produc ... 1157790797

When I scrolled down they have several pics of the holster being worn.

thanks.

[Skiprr]

https://www.bravoconcealment.com/produc ... 1157790797

"Initial release will be limited to the Glock 19, 23, 32."

I have no experience with the brand. But looking at the rather poorly written hype on the website...nah; I'll pass.

The claim to fame seems to be that the holster holds the gun at a 10-degree inward tilt...meaning the hilt is pressed against the body at an angle greater than other Kydex holsters. But that would have me wondering about the draw. Despite any body issues, every all-Kydex holster I have is straight-in, straight-out. If I put any significant pressure in any other direction, the gun does not move freely.

And a 10-degree tilt in at the top means a 10-degree tilt out at the bottom. Is it easier to conceal a lump above your waistband or one poking out below your hip?

Moreover, they say you can remove the forward belt clip: "Running the holster in the 'single belt clip configuration' allows for the holster to go 'Tuck-able' This means that you can tuck your shirt between your pants and the holster for a more formal style of concealment."

Really? Removing one of the belt clips from a holster that is designed with two of them makes it stable exactly how? Part of carrying a gun is, well, carrying it. But the life-saving part is being able to draw it--from a stable platform--when you absolutely need to.

[fernando1027]

https://www.bravoconcealment.com/produc ... 1157790797

"Initial release will be limited to the Glock 19, 23, 32."

I have no experience with the brand. But looking at the rather poorly written hype on the website...nah; I'll pass.

The claim to fame seems to be that the holster holds the gun at a 10-degree inward tilt...meaning the hilt is pressed against the body at an angle greater than other Kydex holsters. But that would have me wondering about the draw. Despite any body issues, every all-Kydex holster I have is straight-in, straight-out. If I put any significant pressure in any other direction, the gun does not move freely.

And a 10-degree tilt in at the top means a 10-degree tilt out at the bottom. Is it easier to conceal a lump above your waistband or one poking out below your hip?

Moreover, they say you can remove the forward belt clip: "Running the holster in the 'single belt clip configuration' allows for the holster to go 'Tuck-able' This means that you can tuck your shirt between your pants and the holster for a more formal style of concealment."

Really? Removing one of the belt clips from a holster that is designed with two of them makes it stable exactly how? Part of carrying a gun is, well, carrying it. But the life-saving part is being able to draw it--from a stable platform--when you absolutely need to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTZ_u4M4RY0

i did find what i was looking for ^ please tell what you think on that?

[Skiprr]

i did find what i was looking for ^ please tell what you think on that?

Well, first, I'll need to ask--on behalf of all the Forum members--if you have any association with Bravo Concealment.

Second, I don't want to dive off into a handgun carry lesson. But what I will say is that, in addition to surety of access, firearm presentation is all about articulation.

Specifically, movement and articulation of skeletal joints. No different from hand-to-hand combat. Less is more.

If you need to get to a handgun, efficiency is key. The tool needs to be as close to hand as possible, and bringing it into play needs to involve the least amount of motion possible. Efficiency.

If your body type can pull it off, appendix carry is arguably the best possible carry position. But the vertical alignment shown in the video as necessitated by the Bravo Concealment holster riding on a single belt-clip is very much a non-starter, negating the advantages of APX.

In the Bravo Concealment video, notice that only the draw from holster is shown, not the gun being drawn and brought onto target. That's because the position of the holster completely negates the advantage of APX carry: the subject has to significantly articulate his wrist in order to even take a master-grip on the gun.

Track the distance the muzzle travels before it's brought on target. Carefully, slowly. Imagine there's a laser on the barrel and watch every tiny movement as the muzzle traverses to the target.

It ain't rocket science. The less distance that laser moves, the more efficient--and repeatable--the movement.

But that's not all.

The overwhelming majority of outside-the-home instances of defensive use of a firearm will be at very close distance. Very close. As in six feet. Here's a related discussion from five years ago: http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic. ... 0&p=845906.

If your carry position is easily susceptible to a bad guy jamming your draw...rethink your carry choice and your training.

[Excaliber]

Ten degrees isn't a lot, but it may be enough to make a difference.

I'll defer judgment on this concept until I have a chance to try it and see for myself if it works for me or not.

[warnmar10]

i did find what i was looking for ^ please tell what you think on that?

Well, ... training.

Exactly.

[Wag2323]

From the look of the design using two clips at 4-5 oclock then maybe it will conceal a little better. But you only use one clip to make it tuck-able I don't see it helping as much since the clip is narrow the gun can rotate around that axis slightly but that is debatable.

If you use both clips though it doesnt look like you can change the cant which a straight drop at 4 or 5 oclock wouldn't work for me and their appendix position seems to show your going to use one clip so not sure whats the point.

[fernando1027]

i did find what i was looking for ^ please tell what you think on that?

Well, first, I'll need to ask--on behalf of all the Forum members--if you have any association with Bravo Concealment.

Second, I don't want to dive off into a handgun carry lesson. But what I will say is that, in addition to surety of access, firearm presentation is all about articulation.

Specifically, movement and articulation of skeletal joints. No different from hand-to-hand combat. Less is more.

If you need to get to a handgun, efficiency is key. The tool needs to be as close to hand as possible, and bringing it into play needs to involve the least amount of motion possible. Efficiency.

If your body type can pull it off, appendix carry is arguably the best possible carry position. But the vertical alignment shown in the video as necessitated by the Bravo Concealment holster riding on a single belt-clip is very much a non-starter, negating the advantages of APX.

In the Bravo Concealment video, notice that only the draw from holster is shown, not the gun being drawn and brought onto target. That's because the position of the holster completely negates the advantage of APX carry: the subject has to significantly articulate his wrist in order to even take a master-grip on the gun.

Track the distance the muzzle travels before it's brought on target. Carefully, slowly. Imagine there's a laser on the barrel and watch every tiny movement as the muzzle traverses to the target.

It ain't rocket science. The less distance that laser moves, the more efficient--and repeatable--the movement.

But that's not all.

The overwhelming majority of outside-the-home instances of defensive use of a firearm will be at very close distance. Very close. As in six feet. Here's a related discussion from five years ago: http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic. ... 0&p=845906.

If your carry position is easily susceptible to a bad guy jamming your draw...rethink your carry choice and your training.

no i have no association with the company just asking :D ..... thanks to all of you the feedback