Ah. So daycare and preschool carry would be good to go I believe.Charles L. Cotton wrote:It defined "school" as an accredited primary or secondary school.tx85 wrote:H Reported favorably as substituted
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SB349 by Creighton: Clarification of School Activity Grounds
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Correct, but remember that SB349 doesn't change current law. It merely clarifies it to prevent local liars from abusing TPC §46.03(a)(1).locke_n_load wrote:Ah. So daycare and preschool carry would be good to go I believe.Charles L. Cotton wrote:It defined "school" as an accredited primary or secondary school.tx85 wrote:H Reported favorably as substituted
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But doesn't current law state that "educational institutions" are off limits, and that term is not defined as of right now? So couldn't one possibly be prosecuted for carrying in a daycare right now? My 2 year old learns a lot at her day care.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Correct, but remember that SB349 doesn't change current law. It merely clarifies it to prevent local liars from abusing TPC §46.03(a)(1).locke_n_load wrote:Ah. So daycare and preschool carry would be good to go I believe.Charles L. Cotton wrote:It defined "school" as an accredited primary or secondary school.tx85 wrote:H Reported favorably as substituted
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Really people? Just let it go.... let senate read and pass. Then we can nit pick. "Your" making this harder than it has to be. At this point, just trust Charles...
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Goodbye zoo schools, museum schools, TABC licensee schools. At it's heart the Fort Worth Zoo is an educational institution...
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If agents of the State are willing to completely ignore the plain language of the law (they are) and the courts are willing to ignore it as well, there is nothing one can do. Presumably any clarification such as in SB 349 will help. But at the end of the day I guess someone will have to be a "test case".TreyHouston wrote:Really people? Just let it go.... let senate read and pass. Then we can nit pick. "Your" making this harder than it has to be. At this point, just trust Charles...
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Sunday school, home school, beauty school, flight school, old school
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I'm not nit picking anything, I was going over what the current penal code says. I'm not arguing at all, merely inquiring. Thanks.TreyHouston wrote:Really people? Just let it go.... let senate read and pass. Then we can nit pick. "Your" making this harder than it has to be. At this point, just trust Charles...
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Exactly!ScottDLS wrote:Goodbye zoo schools, museum schools, TABC licensee schools. At it's heart the Fort Worth Zoo is an educational institution...
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While current state law includes "educational institutions" as one of the prohibited areas, the term is not defined, as you noted. When the session is over, I'll go into this again.locke_n_load wrote:But doesn't current law state that "educational institutions" are off limits, and that term is not defined as of right now? So couldn't one possibly be prosecuted for carrying in a daycare right now? My 2 year old learns a lot at her day care.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Correct, but remember that SB349 doesn't change current law. It merely clarifies it to prevent local liars from abusing TPC §46.03(a)(1).locke_n_load wrote:Ah. So daycare and preschool carry would be good to go I believe.Charles L. Cotton wrote:It defined "school" as an accredited primary or secondary school.tx85 wrote:H Reported favorably as substituted
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I think if this bill passes as it stands right now, clarification would no longer be needed. Fingers crossed and ready to send communications to my congress critters whenever it is needed.Charles L. Cotton wrote:While current state law includes "educational institutions" as one of the prohibited areas, the term is not defined, as you noted. When the session is over, I'll go into this again.locke_n_load wrote:But doesn't current law state that "educational institutions" are off limits, and that term is not defined as of right now? So couldn't one possibly be prosecuted for carrying in a daycare right now? My 2 year old learns a lot at her day care.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Correct, but remember that SB349 doesn't change current law. It merely clarifies it to prevent local liars from abusing TPC §46.03(a)(1).locke_n_load wrote:Ah. So daycare and preschool carry would be good to go I believe.Charles L. Cotton wrote:It defined "school" as an accredited primary or secondary school.tx85 wrote:H Reported favorably as substituted
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I just got word that this bill is dead. Can anyone confirm?
Edited to add: actually just heard that most bills not on the governor's and Dan Patrick's short list are going to die in calendars. Again, this is just what I heard.
Edited to add: actually just heard that most bills not on the governor's and Dan Patrick's short list are going to die in calendars. Again, this is just what I heard.
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If I'm reading things correctly, this bill is dead since it was not placed on the House Daily Calendar by 10:00 PM last night.
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This is correct and I'm furious! It was prefiled in December, but didn't get a hearing in committee until 4/24/17. Then it didn't get to the Senate floor until 5/9/17. The Bill didn't change current law; it prevented dishonest people from abusing the current law to the extreme prejudice of law-abiding LTCs. There's absolutely no excuse for letting this Bill die.locke_n_load wrote:I just got word that this bill is dead. Can anyone confirm?
Edited to add: actually just heard that most bills not on the governor's and Dan Patrick's short list are going to die in calendars. Again, this is just what I heard.
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What a shame.
I expect huge losses for the Republican Party, both at the State and Federal level in the upcoming elections.
To those who worked hard for this bill (and many other great pro-2A bills), I say thank you. I can only imagine the vitreal aimed against you as you fought for our Rights.
To those who paraded their own egos around and contributed to the fall of this bill (and many other great pro-2A bills), I say that We are onto you and We don't care if you carry an "R" or an "D" behind your name. We will fight tooth and nail to get your behinds out of Our chambers, you bums.
There should be a "M" for Marxist behind your names.
I expect huge losses for the Republican Party, both at the State and Federal level in the upcoming elections.
To those who worked hard for this bill (and many other great pro-2A bills), I say thank you. I can only imagine the vitreal aimed against you as you fought for our Rights.
To those who paraded their own egos around and contributed to the fall of this bill (and many other great pro-2A bills), I say that We are onto you and We don't care if you carry an "R" or an "D" behind your name. We will fight tooth and nail to get your behinds out of Our chambers, you bums.
There should be a "M" for Marxist behind your names.