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Post by RPB » Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:04 am

Australia gun licences surge

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... netimes_sb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The number of new gun licences issued on the Gold Coast has risen 36 per cent in the past two years, nearly double the increase across Queensland, with one criminologist attributing the rise to fears over home invasions.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... z1TV0cEGfh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by philip964 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:11 am

"Mr Haines said it was futile for residents to depend on a gun for self-defence in their home, as firearms have to be dismantled and stored in a secure safe, separate from ammunition."

Recent unsolved shootings have included a police officer trying to stop an armed robbery in progress (I have to assume he was unarmed), and an unarmed home owner who was the victim of a home invasion. They suggested having a bat for home protection as the time required to assemble your gun might be five minutes. Some people wanted licensed gun owners to be required to keep their guns at their sporting club. Apparently young people now carry knives for self protection. I suspect there are already laws on the books about knives, with bat laws not far behind.

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Post by Excaliber » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:39 am

philip964 wrote:"Mr Haines said it was futile for residents to depend on a gun for self-defence in their home, as firearms have to be dismantled and stored in a secure safe, separate from ammunition."

Recent unsolved shootings have included a police officer trying to stop an armed robbery in progress (I have to assume he was unarmed), and an unarmed home owner who was the victim of a home invasion. They suggested having a bat for home protection as the time required to assemble your gun might be five minutes. Some people wanted licensed gun owners to be required to keep their guns at their sporting club. Apparently young people now carry knives for self protection. I suspect there are already laws on the books about knives, with bat laws not far behind.
It looks like their "you'll be safer if we take away your ability to defend yourself" sales pitch has worked out about as well as our "hope and change."
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Post by RPB » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:17 am

Gun licence spike OK with Gold Coast cops
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/827 ... coast-cops" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Gold Coast police are assuring the community a rise in new gun licences in the troubled region does not translate to rising gun crime.

Regional crime coordinator Detective Superintendent Dave Hutchinson says he doesn't believe licensed gun owners pose a threat to the community, or contribute to the level of crime.
Superintendent Hutchinson says the figures have no bearing on the crime rate.

"Self defence is not a reason to get a gun licence and our experience is that these offences aren't committed by licensed gun holders anyway, generally they're unlicensed firearms," he told reporters on Friday.

"We generally don't have any issues with licensed gun holders."
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Post by philip964 » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:22 am

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2015/s4286039.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now looking to restrict the number of guns you can register.

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Post by C-dub » Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:41 pm

RPB wrote:Gun licence spike OK with Gold Coast cops
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/827 ... coast-cops" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Gold Coast police are assuring the community a rise in new gun licences in the troubled region does not translate to rising gun crime.

Regional crime coordinator Detective Superintendent Dave Hutchinson says he doesn't believe licensed gun owners pose a threat to the community, or contribute to the level of crime.
This guy is proving the argument to his point. Of course, licensed gun owners don't pose a threat to the community unless you count the crooks as part of the community. On the flip side, I don't know how he can say with a straight face that legal gun owners don't contribute to the crime level. The more of them there are the lower the crime level. Why else would the number of new license applicants be on the rise? They took them all away and the crime rates began to rise.
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Superintendent Hutchinson says the figures have no bearing on the crime rate.

"Self defence is not a reason to get a gun licence and our experience is that these offences aren't committed by licensed gun holders anyway, generally they're unlicensed firearms," he told reporters on Friday.

"We generally don't have any issues with licensed gun holders."
Hello! If you don't have issues with licensed gun holders then get those licenses approved and watch what happens.
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Post by misterlarry » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:56 pm

Sounds like the Aussies have thought of everything. They want to make it really hard for your incarcerated evil gun to reassemble and load itself before it starts on an unprovoked murderous rampage. Never can be too careful, can you?

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I guess they don't realize that the safest place for a loaded gun is in a holster and on the hip of a responsible gun owner. Usually takes less than 5 minutes to deploy also.
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Post by VMI77 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:20 pm

Excaliber wrote:
philip964 wrote:"Mr Haines said it was futile for residents to depend on a gun for self-defence in their home, as firearms have to be dismantled and stored in a secure safe, separate from ammunition."

Recent unsolved shootings have included a police officer trying to stop an armed robbery in progress (I have to assume he was unarmed), and an unarmed home owner who was the victim of a home invasion. They suggested having a bat for home protection as the time required to assemble your gun might be five minutes. Some people wanted licensed gun owners to be required to keep their guns at their sporting club. Apparently young people now carry knives for self protection. I suspect there are already laws on the books about knives, with bat laws not far behind.
It looks like their "you'll be safer if we take away your ability to defend yourself" sales pitch has worked out about as well as our "hope and change."
I know you know it's worked out exactly as intended.
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Post by VMI77 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:23 pm

misterlarry wrote:Sounds like the Aussies have thought of everything. They want to make it really hard for your incarcerated evil gun to reassemble and load itself before it starts on an unprovoked murderous rampage. Never can be too careful, can you?

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I guess they don't realize that the safest place for a loaded gun is in a holster and on the hip of a responsible gun owner. Usually takes less than 5 minutes to deploy also.
Uh, well, as it so happens, I was cleaning it when the thugs broke in and was just about to disassemble it for safe storage. :evil2:
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Post by philip964 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:57 pm

http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/4927 ... ome/?cs=11

Licensed gun owner has his guns seized after confronting a man with knife at 3 am at his house. He used his unloaded .22 rifle as a essentially a prop to force the man into submission.

His permit to have the guns for varmit control is under review. The police would have preferred him to just call 911 and wait.


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Post by nimravus01 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:37 pm

In my mind, I've always imagined Australians as tough, rugged, take no bull kind of people. Sadly, that image seems to be pure fantasy. Or, perhaps that is the spirit of the people, but, they've been neutered by their government. Let us take a lesson from our friend down under, and never let that happen to the USA.

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Post by johncanfield » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:43 pm

Sad. They have been turned into a bunch of sheeples.
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Post by NotRPB » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:37 pm

AU
Spike in handgun crimes reveals nation’s secret problem
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national ... m-exposed/

AU
Statistics reveal surge in crime across country, with homicide, assault, public order, gun and drug offences up in Queensland
http://www.couriermail.com.au/statistic ... df8416eec6

AU
Australia’s Gun Ban Results in More Guns Than Ever
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/austr ... -at-fault/

AU
Australian “Mass Shooting” in 2002, Five Years After Gun Confiscation
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 73684.html

AU
Australia’s Gun Ban. The Actual Results…
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/obama ... l-results/

U.K.
Number of rapes shoot up by 42% to a record high as latest crime figures reveal increases in sexual offences, internet fraud and knife crime
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4szbjwdAm

Brazil
Brazil, where the homicide rate is five times higher than in the United States, ... rate is five times that of the US, a new push to relax gun laws.

brazil-murder-rate-spikes-congress-decides-gun-ban-is-cause
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comm ... der_tolls/
The recent stabbing of a doctor inspired the drafting of new legislation to control knives. Though well intentioned, this effort is misguided.

It is not so much knives, but rather handguns that are doing the most damage. Revolvers and pistols were responsible for 42,416 of Brazil´s jaw-dropping 56,337 murders in 2012. Across the country, gun-related homicide has increased by 387% since the 1980s
Brazil Has Nearly 60000 Murders, And It May Relax Gun Laws
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Post by JustSomeOldGuy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:04 pm

nimravus01 wrote:In my mind, I've always imagined Australians as tough, rugged, take no bull kind of people. Sadly, that image seems to be pure fantasy. Or, perhaps that is the spirit of the people, but, they've been neutered by their government. Let us take a lesson from our friend down under, and never let that happen to the USA.
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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:13 pm

How disassembled do the guns have to be? I can reassemble a fully field stripped Glock in about 30 seconds, and that assumes I am groggy from having just woken up. 5 minutes seems like a very long time for anyone familiar with modern handguns.
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