getting a replacemen CHL

htxred · Post by **htxred** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:48 pm

after you received your replacement chl (address change) do you have to send the old one back? or can you just chop it in half and put it away?

AEA · Post by **AEA** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:57 pm

I just shredded mine 2 years ago after an address change.
But, I am hearing now that the new Director of the DPS has stated that all expired (or no longer valid) licenses are to be returned to the DPS........

I have yet to see anything official on this, or if they are going to provide prepaid mailers for you send them back in (yea - RIGHT).

lrb111 · Post by **lrb111** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:48 am

IIRC, you need to return the old one. The way this works is they don't want two, potentially active, unexpired licenses floating around.
The same as upgrading a license from Revolver to SA. They want that old one back for the same reason.

frankie_the_yankee · Post by **frankie_the_yankee** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:54 am

lrb111 wrote:IIRC, you need to return the old one. The way this works is they don't want two, potentially active, unexpired licenses floating around.
The same as upgrading a license from Revolver to SA. They want that old one back for the same reason.

Are you aware of any requirements for old expired licenses? I got my renewal last June. My old license expired at the end of July. I just put it in a drawer somewhere.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:14 am

The circumstances that require you to return the license to DPS are

suspension
revocation
change of category (NSA to SA)

That's it.

BTW, there's one subtle omission in this highly detailed law: You are required to file a change of name or address and certain other changes, but not a sex change.

Jim

propellerhead · Post by **propellerhead** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:32 am

I don't recall seeing anything about returning the old one when I did a change of address.

htxred · Post by **htxred** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:57 am

i guess one should call them. and talk to a machine. :D

Thane · Post by **Thane** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:59 am

seamusTX wrote:BTW, there's one subtle omission in this highly detailed law: You are required to file a change of name or address and certain other changes, but not a sex change. Jim

Of course. Wouldn't want to discriminate against the politicians in Austin, right?

lrb111 · Post by **lrb111** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:55 pm

frankie_the_yankee wrote:
lrb111 wrote:IIRC, you need to return the old one. The way this works is they don't want two, potentially active, unexpired licenses floating around.
The same as upgrading a license from Revolver to SA. They want that old one back for the same reason.
Are you aware of any requirements for old expired licenses? I got my renewal last June. My old license expired at the end of July. I just put it in a drawer somewhere.

Nope, expired are useless, no need to return.

lrb111 · Post by **lrb111** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:10 pm

seamusTX wrote:The circumstances that require you to return the license to DPS are
suspension
revocation
change of category (NSA to SA)
That's it.

BTW, there's one subtle omission in this highly detailed law: You are required to file a change of name or address and certain other changes, but not a sex change.

Jim

new update
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... hp?t=10107

Mark G26 · Post by **Mark G26** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:17 pm

lrb111 wrote:
frankie_the_yankee wrote:
lrb111 wrote:IIRC, you need to return the old one. The way this works is they don't want two, potentially active, unexpired licenses floating around.
The same as upgrading a license from Revolver to SA. They want that old one back for the same reason.
Are you aware of any requirements for old expired licenses? I got my renewal last June. My old license expired at the end of July. I just put it in a drawer somewhere.
Nope, expired are useless, no need to return.

You get to see how you have aged since your last renewal

srothstein · Post by **srothstein** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:19 pm

seamusTX wrote:The circumstances that require you to return the license to DPS are
suspension
revocation
change of category (NSA to SA)
That's it.

BTW, there's one subtle omission in this highly detailed law: You are required to file a change of name or address and certain other changes, but not a sex change.

Jim

It is legally impossible to change your sex in Texas, Jim, at least in the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. That is the Bexar County area and about 10 years ago (IIRC) they had a case that involved a sex change before marriage. The will had been contested and the ruling was the widow was not entitled to her share since the marriage was not legal. The reason the marriage was not legal was the widow was born a man and had a sex change operation. The court ruled that your sex is determined by your chromosomes and not the physical equipment you have at any given time. Thus, your legal sex does not change. I have a feeling this is going to lead to some very interesting future cases.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:12 am

lrb111 wrote:new update
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... hp?t=10107

In which

CWOOD wrote:Another change is that a CHL'er cannot be in possession of more than one valid license at a time. So if you change name, address or handgun catagory, you have to send in the old license when you get the new one.

IMHO, DPS cannot cannot make a regulation that is not authorized in the law. The law does not require a license to be returned after a change of name or address. They can try, of course. Agencies do that all the time.

- Jim