FTF gun sales out of state?

[BoneDigger]

I know you can ship a gun to an FFL out of state. But, if I wanted to sell a gun to a gentleman in Louisiana face-to-face, is that legal?

Todd

[seamusTX]

No. See http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b1.

- Jim

[BoneDigger]

That's what I thought. Thanks for the information.

Todd

[mr surveyor]

as a little twist to circumstances:

Would it be illegal to "loan" a gun to an out of state friend that may be returning to their home in a disaster area overrun with potential problems?

[seamusTX]

Would it be illegal to "loan" a gun to an out of state friend that may be returning to their home in a disaster area overrun with potential problems?

Probably, but as Louisiana does not have gun registration, there would be no way to check where the person got the weapon, and no basis for prosecution.

This law is prosecuted either when a criminal is caught and gives up the seller, or an undercover officer buys a weapon in a sting.

- Jim

[BoneDigger]

I wouldn't trust it myself. Let them buy a gun of their own.

Todd

[frankie_the_yankee]

Would it be illegal to "loan" a gun to an out of state friend that may be returning to their home in a disaster area overrun with potential problems?

Probably, but as Louisiana does not have gun registration, there would be no way to check where the person got the weapon, and no basis for prosecution.

This law is prosecuted either when a criminal is caught and gives up the seller, or an undercover officer buys a weapon in a sting.

- Jim

They could do a forward trace. This would lead to the last recorded owner (meaning a sale done thorugh an FFL where a 4473 form was filed). But if the gun had been sold privately in its lifetime, they would probably hit a dead end.

But this is admittedly far-fetched.

[seamusTX]

They could do a forward trace. This would lead to the last recorded owner (meaning a sale done thorugh an FFL where a 4473 form was filed). But if the gun had been sold privately in its lifetime, they would probably hit a dead end.

It's possible, if the lender bought the weapon from an FFL.

The friend (presumably this is a real, trustworthy friend) would have to do something that got police attention, and then the police would have to know somehow that it wasn't his weapon, and have a reason to care how he got it.

These issues come up mainly when a felon is in possession of a weapon.

- Jim

[Renegade]

as a little twist to circumstances:

Would it be illegal to "loan" a gun to an out of state friend that may be returning to their home in a disaster area overrun with potential problems?

Loaning guns to out-of-state residents is OK under FedLaw.

[seamusTX]

Loaning guns to out-of-state residents is OK under FedLaw.

Lending is allowed for specific uses, like hunting. IMHO, you're not allowed to give the weapon to someone who then goes out of state with it.

See http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b1

- Jim

[mr surveyor]

interesting responses.

During "Katrina" some friends and I got together and bought 4 small generators, bottled water, a bit of food and other supplies to forward to a buddy and his family and friends in the "disaster area" on the North side of the lake from NO. His wife, a very attractive young lady, met us halfway to pick up the care packages. She was visibly concerned with her safety, particularly due to the vast amount of crime occuring in their area. I had absolutely NO concerns about loaning her... actually insisting that she take the old revolver as a last ditch effort to defend herself if it was absolutely necessary. I would do it all over again. The insinuation that I would loan a gun to a person, or even have a friend that would be suspect of committing a criminal offense with a gun is a bit presumptive.

And as for "registered gun"??????

[seamusTX]

During "Katrina" ... I had absolutely NO concerns about loaning her... actually insisting that she take the old revolver as a last ditch effort to defend herself if it was absolutely necessary.

I might do the same thing myself. Moral necessity trumps federal laws.

In my earlier answers I was trying to be purely factual.

- Jim

[mr surveyor]

Thanks seamus. I value your opinions a great deal.

[seamusTX]

Thanks seamus. I value your opinions a great deal.

You're welcome. I'm honored.

- Jim