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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:40 am

philbo wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 am
rotor wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:46 pm
philbo wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:21 am
In Ruling Against Trump, Judge Defines Anticorruption Clauses in Constitution for First Time. He ruled that the lawsuit should proceed to the evidence-gathering stage, which could clear the way for an examination of financial records that the president has consistently refused to disclose.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/p ... wsuit.html
You make it sound like a crime that he hasn't shown his tax returns. No law requires this disclosure. Congress can pass one if they think it is important. Perhaps Congress will show their tax returns as well. Amazing how people come into Congress broke and leave multi-millionaires. At least Trump came in with money and bragged about it not like Romney who was ashamed of his wealth.
Every president since Nixon has released their tax return. The reason Nixon did so (and this tradition began) was to provide transparency and quell questions that existed as to whether he had violated the tax code, and if so could the IRS be trusted to investigate a person independently when that person was their boss. Such transparency has been instrumental for persons in power to quickly quiet questions for ethics violations, or in this case a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution. While no law requires trump to release his returns, there is no law that prevents his doing so... something trump has stated on numerous occasions. The problem is that by refusing to provide transparency, trump provides ammunition for his opponents to attack as they are now doing. Has trump violated the emoluments clause? Perhaps not, but a more savvy politician wouldn't allow such claims to grow to the distractions they obviously are. In this case, trump has created the conditions for his own misery.... but that may well define his entire presidency so far.
Let's see, Trump has doubled this country's GDP already. Obama doubled this country's debt.

I want to see Barack Hussein Obama's college transcripts.
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by philip964 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:25 am

Bitter Clinger wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:40 am
philbo wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 am
rotor wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:46 pm
philbo wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:21 am
In Ruling Against Trump, Judge Defines Anticorruption Clauses in Constitution for First Time. He ruled that the lawsuit should proceed to the evidence-gathering stage, which could clear the way for an examination of financial records that the president has consistently refused to disclose.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/p ... wsuit.html
You make it sound like a crime that he hasn't shown his tax returns. No law requires this disclosure. Congress can pass one if they think it is important. Perhaps Congress will show their tax returns as well. Amazing how people come into Congress broke and leave multi-millionaires. At least Trump came in with money and bragged about it not like Romney who was ashamed of his wealth.
Every president since Nixon has released their tax return. The reason Nixon did so (and this tradition began) was to provide transparency and quell questions that existed as to whether he had violated the tax code, and if so could the IRS be trusted to investigate a person independently when that person was their boss. Such transparency has been instrumental for persons in power to quickly quiet questions for ethics violations, or in this case a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution. While no law requires trump to release his returns, there is no law that prevents his doing so... something trump has stated on numerous occasions. The problem is that by refusing to provide transparency, trump provides ammunition for his opponents to attack as they are now doing. Has trump violated the emoluments clause? Perhaps not, but a more savvy politician wouldn't allow such claims to grow to the distractions they obviously are. In this case, trump has created the conditions for his own misery.... but that may well define his entire presidency so far.
Let's see, Trump has doubled this country's GDP already. Obama doubled this country's debt.

I want to see Barack Hussein Obama's college transcripts.
I have always expected that Obama pretended to be a foreign student to get extra scholarships at school and that is the reason his transcripts were hidden. Or he really was a foreign student, and the birth certificate was fake after all.

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Post by oljames3 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:55 am

144 pages. That's gross. :biggrinjester:
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oljames3 wrote:
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144 pages. That's gross. :biggrinjester:
It took me a second.
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by rotor » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:25 am

philbo wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 am
rotor wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:46 pm
philbo wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:21 am
In Ruling Against Trump, Judge Defines Anticorruption Clauses in Constitution for First Time. He ruled that the lawsuit should proceed to the evidence-gathering stage, which could clear the way for an examination of financial records that the president has consistently refused to disclose.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/p ... wsuit.html
You make it sound like a crime that he hasn't shown his tax returns. No law requires this disclosure. Congress can pass one if they think it is important. Perhaps Congress will show their tax returns as well. Amazing how people come into Congress broke and leave multi-millionaires. At least Trump came in with money and bragged about it not like Romney who was ashamed of his wealth.
Every president since Nixon has released their tax return. The reason Nixon did so (and this tradition began) was to provide transparency and quell questions that existed as to whether he had violated the tax code, and if so could the IRS be trusted to investigate a person independently when that person was their boss. Such transparency has been instrumental for persons in power to quickly quiet questions for ethics violations, or in this case a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution. While no law requires trump to release his returns, there is no law that prevents his doing so... something trump has stated on numerous occasions. The problem is that by refusing to provide transparency, trump provides ammunition for his opponents to attack as they are now doing. Has trump violated the emoluments clause? Perhaps not, but a more savvy politician wouldn't allow such claims to grow to the distractions they obviously are. In this case, trump has created the conditions for his own misery.... but that may well define his entire presidency so far.
I am sure we can get Lois Lerner back to review Trump's tax returns. Nobody cares except the lefties. A smart person knows that if it is not required don't do it. It is NOT required. The election is over. He is not going to show it. And NO politician in the U.S. is about to show their returns. Well, maybe the little communist from The Bronx might show hers but who cares.


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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by philip964 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:52 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/30/dimon-s ... rated.html

Dimon says Trump accelerated the economy.

Guillani says they got nothing. Bluffing with a pair of 2’s.

Russian soldiers now guard Trump’s star on walk of fame in Hollywood.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by Bitter Clinger » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:55 pm

dale blanker wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:28 pm
rotor wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:46 pm
philbo wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:21 am
In Ruling Against Trump, Judge Defines Anticorruption Clauses in Constitution for First Time. He ruled that the lawsuit should proceed to the evidence-gathering stage, which could clear the way for an examination of financial records that the president has consistently refused to disclose.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/p ... wsuit.html
You make it sound like a crime that he hasn't shown his tax returns. No law requires this disclosure. Congress can pass one if they think it is important. Perhaps Congress will show their tax returns as well. Amazing how people come into Congress broke and leave multi-millionaires. At least Trump came in with money and bragged about it not like Romney who was ashamed of his wealth.
Shouldn't we be interested in the financial obligations, income, investments, and charitable support of all elected and appointed officials??? Shouldn't the president fulfill his promise to provide his tax return when his "audit" was over??? Where's the transparency??? :confused5
Feh! Where was your values-signalling cry for transparency when Barack Hussein Obama was using US Taxpayer dollars to fund terrorism?

Such hypocrisy is indeed transparent!

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by TreyHouston » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:05 pm

philbo wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 am
rotor wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:46 pm
philbo wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:21 am
In Ruling Against Trump, Judge Defines Anticorruption Clauses in Constitution for First Time. He ruled that the lawsuit should proceed to the evidence-gathering stage, which could clear the way for an examination of financial records that the president has consistently refused to disclose.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/p ... wsuit.html
You make it sound like a crime that he hasn't shown his tax returns. No law requires this disclosure. Congress can pass one if they think it is important. Perhaps Congress will show their tax returns as well. Amazing how people come into Congress broke and leave multi-millionaires. At least Trump came in with money and bragged about it not like Romney who was ashamed of his wealth.
Every president since Nixon has released their tax return. The reason Nixon did so (and this tradition began) was to provide transparency and quell questions that existed as to whether he had violated the tax code, and if so could the IRS be trusted to investigate a person independently when that person was their boss. Such transparency has been instrumental for persons in power to quickly quiet questions for ethics violations, or in this case a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution. While no law requires trump to release his returns, there is no law that prevents his doing so... something trump has stated on numerous occasions. The problem is that by refusing to provide transparency, trump provides ammunition for his opponents to attack as they are now doing. Has trump violated the emoluments clause? Perhaps not, but a more savvy politician wouldn't allow such claims to grow to the distractions they obviously are. In this case, trump has created the conditions for his own misery.... but that may well define his entire presidency so far.
Are you just going to argue everything? He won, get over it Hillary. :lol: MAGA
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Post by philbo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:45 pm

U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles.
It appears that Trump's assertions just a few weeks ago that Pyongyang was “no longer a Nuclear Threat" might have been a little premature.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... cf47b46431


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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by flechero » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:57 pm

TreyHouston wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:05 pm


Are you just going to argue everything? He won, get over it Hillary. :lol: MAGA
He reminds me of a guy I once knew... you could take him to lunch when he was broke and he'd be upset that it was only Chili's and not a $100 meal. :lol:


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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by philip964 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:12 pm

Trump repeats threat to shut down govt over the wall.


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Post by TreyHouston » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:20 pm

flechero wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:57 pm
TreyHouston wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:05 pm


Are you just going to argue everything? He won, get over it Hillary. :lol: MAGA
He reminds me of a guy I once knew... you could take him to lunch when he was broke and he'd be upset that it was only Chili's and not a $100 meal. :lol:
And this one is Bill! Amazing how you both are on at the same time!
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Post by bbhack » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:50 pm

philbo wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:45 pm
U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles.
It appears that Trump's assertions just a few weeks ago that Pyongyang was “no longer a Nuclear Threat" might have been a little premature.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... cf47b46431
I just read the wapo article. Not one named official said anything, except Pompeo, and he did not say this. "Anonynous WaPo Source" = #FakeNews.
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Post by Jusme » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:34 am

philbo wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 am
rotor wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:46 pm
philbo wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:21 am
In Ruling Against Trump, Judge Defines Anticorruption Clauses in Constitution for First Time. He ruled that the lawsuit should proceed to the evidence-gathering stage, which could clear the way for an examination of financial records that the president has consistently refused to disclose.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/p ... wsuit.html
You make it sound like a crime that he hasn't shown his tax returns. No law requires this disclosure. Congress can pass one if they think it is important. Perhaps Congress will show their tax returns as well. Amazing how people come into Congress broke and leave multi-millionaires. At least Trump came in with money and bragged about it not like Romney who was ashamed of his wealth.
Every president since Nixon has released their tax return. The reason Nixon did so (and this tradition began) was to provide transparency and quell questions that existed as to whether he had violated the tax code, and if so could the IRS be trusted to investigate a person independently when that person was their boss. Such transparency has been instrumental for persons in power to quickly quiet questions for ethics violations, or in this case a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution. While no law requires trump to release his returns, there is no law that prevents his doing so... something trump has stated on numerous occasions. The problem is that by refusing to provide transparency, trump provides ammunition for his opponents to attack as they are now doing. Has trump violated the emoluments clause? Perhaps not, but a more savvy politician wouldn't allow such claims to grow to the distractions they obviously are. In this case, trump has created the conditions for his own misery.... but that may well define his entire presidency so far.

I would be willing to bet, that Trump's tax returns, have been gone over with a fine tooth comb, by the IRS, for decades. If there were improprieties, it would have been discovered long before now. If by no other means, than BHO weaponized use of the IRS against any conservatives. His returns would have been leaked, by the FBI, the CIA, and every other agency, if they thought it would harm his candidacy. As far as transparency goes, I don't think I would use RMN as a shining example.JMHO
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

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Post by flechero » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:44 am

Jusme wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:34 am
philbo wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 am
rotor wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:46 pm
philbo wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:21 am
In Ruling Against Trump, Judge Defines Anticorruption Clauses in Constitution for First Time. He ruled that the lawsuit should proceed to the evidence-gathering stage, which could clear the way for an examination of financial records that the president has consistently refused to disclose.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/us/p ... wsuit.html
You make it sound like a crime that he hasn't shown his tax returns. No law requires this disclosure. Congress can pass one if they think it is important. Perhaps Congress will show their tax returns as well. Amazing how people come into Congress broke and leave multi-millionaires. At least Trump came in with money and bragged about it not like Romney who was ashamed of his wealth.
Every president since Nixon has released their tax return. The reason Nixon did so (and this tradition began) was to provide transparency and quell questions that existed as to whether he had violated the tax code, and if so could the IRS be trusted to investigate a person independently when that person was their boss. Such transparency has been instrumental for persons in power to quickly quiet questions for ethics violations, or in this case a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution. While no law requires trump to release his returns, there is no law that prevents his doing so... something trump has stated on numerous occasions. The problem is that by refusing to provide transparency, trump provides ammunition for his opponents to attack as they are now doing. Has trump violated the emoluments clause? Perhaps not, but a more savvy politician wouldn't allow such claims to grow to the distractions they obviously are. In this case, trump has created the conditions for his own misery.... but that may well define his entire presidency so far.

I would be willing to bet, that Trump's tax returns, have been gone over with a fine tooth comb, by the IRS, for decades. If there were improprieties, it would have been discovered long before now. If by no other means, than BHO weaponized use of the IRS against any conservatives. His returns would have been leaked, by the FBI, the CIA, and every other agency, if they thought it would harm his candidacy. As far as transparency goes, I don't think I would use RMN as a shining example.JMHO
Absolutely they would have been leaked if there was ANYTHING that even if legal but may look bad... Muller's team and the FBI have been leaking everything they have, which isn't much but they still let it go.

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