Cleveland High School shooting

Venus Pax · Post by **Venus Pax** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:46 pm

AEA wrote:If the gun belonged to the father of the shooter, he should be charged for failure to secure and accessory to murder.

I completely disagree. The father should not be charged. If he should be charged on anything, it would be failure to teach his child right from wrong, but there's also the possibility that he did, and the child went in the other direction.

Teenagers may be hormonal and emotional, but they do know better than to bring a gun to school and begin shooting people.

jazr45acp · Post by **jazr45acp** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:19 pm

I can already hear Hilary Clinton "If you vote for me, I'll make sure your kids are safe in Gun free Zones." "I'll get rid of all guns once and for all." Bad guy "are you talking to me?" "Talk to the hand cuz I aint listening" Let's face it folks, guns kill sheople and Hilary kills guns. Case solve.

Or is it?

yobdab · Post by **yobdab** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:55 pm

I think that people are against arming teachers due to the fact that REAL Life would smack square them in the face. They would have to admit things have gone terribly wrong in our society and that would destroy the "make believe" life that built for themselves and their kids. People just chose to ignore the facts to allow themselves to remain in their self created reality. "Ignorance is bliss..." if you will.

I am afraid nothing will change about arming teachers, it just won't happen in my opinion

GlockenHammer · Post by **GlockenHammer** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:42 am

A Houston radio station is following this event with a poll question: "Should teachers be allowed to carry guns in school?" Go vote at http://www.ktrh.com . It'll be up today (Thursday) only.

Mithras61 · Post by **Mithras61** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:54 am

GlockenHammer wrote:A Houston radio station is following this event with a poll question: "Should teachers be allowed to carry guns in school?" Go vote at http://www.ktrh.com . It'll be up today (Thursday) only.

Currently (8:54 a.m.):

Should teachers be allowed to carry guns at schools?

Yes
48.21 %

No
51.79 %

Wildscar · Post by **Wildscar** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:06 am

Mithras61 wrote:
GlockenHammer wrote:A Houston radio station is following this event with a poll question: "Should teachers be allowed to carry guns in school?" Go vote at http://www.ktrh.com . It'll be up today (Thursday) only.
Currently (8:54 a.m.):

Should teachers be allowed to carry guns at schools?

Yes
48.21 %

No
51.79 %

This one too is a loaded question. It should read. â€œShould Teachers with proper permit be allowed to carry?â€? They way this sounds is sayings itâ€™s ok to let any teacher anywhere carry.

Mithras61 · Post by **Mithras61** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:10 am

MSNBC is reporting that the student was previously reported to the school administration as having issued threats to other classmates:

Classmate warned about teen Ohio gunman
‘We talked to the principal,’ student says about shooter who wounded 4

Updated: 9 minutes ago
CLEVELAND - A high school student said Thursday that he and classmates had warned their principal about threats by a classmate who shot and wounded four people before killing himself, and believed the attack could have been prevented.

The student, Rasheem Smith, said on CBS’ “Early Show” that despite their warnings about the student who opened fire Wednesday, Asa H. Coon, principal Johneita Durant told them she was too busy.

Longtooths · Post by **Longtooths** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:28 am

Imagine my surprise when I realized you could refresh the page that has the poll on it and thus vote as many times as you like....Needless to say I bumped the yes vote up to 50.39 above the no vote.

But I noticed that as soon as the yes vote when over the no vote, someone was on the other side doing the same thing I was with the no vote. As a matter of fact it felt as if there were several people on the side of the no vote voting over and over. But when they got a couple of points ahead it would stop climbing.

Then I would start and at the point the yes vote overtook the no's, BAM the no vote would start to climb again and I could not keep pace.

Something doesn't smell right with this poll.

stroo · Post by **stroo** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:51 pm

I just went out and voted a bunch of times. It was moving at .01 to .03 % with each vote. I got the yes above 55%.

WarHawk-AVG · Post by **WarHawk-AVG** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:54 pm

Mithras61 wrote:MSNBC is reporting that the student was previously reported to the school administration as having issued threats to other classmates:

Classmate warned about teen Ohio gunman
â€˜We talked to the principal,â€™ student says about shooter who wounded 4

Updated: 9 minutes ago
CLEVELAND - A high school student said Thursday that he and classmates had warned their principal about threats by a classmate who shot and wounded four people before killing himself, and believed the attack could have been prevented.

The student, Rasheem Smith, said on CBSâ€™ â€œEarly Showâ€? that despite their warnings about the student who opened fire Wednesday, Asa H. Coon, principal Johneita Durant told them she was too busy.

There is always more to the truth! Apparently early warnings don't mean much anymore...

stroo wrote:I just went out and voted a bunch of times. It was moving at .01 to .03 % with each vote. I got the yes above 55%.

Vote early, vote often

cbr600 · Post by **cbr600** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:09 pm

Wildscar wrote:They way this sounds is sayings itâ€™s ok to let any teacher anywhere carry.

The Constitution says yes.