Binary Trigger for AR 15
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Binary Trigger for AR 15
I have seriously been considering a binary trigger system for my AR 15 and have boiled down to the Echo 2 vs the Franklin Armory Gen 3 BFS flat trigger, what are your experiences or thoughts
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Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
My son has the Echo 2 on his AR and it functions flawlessly, I put one on my AR and it eats and jams about every 3rd round, i'm not sure how to diagnose the problem yet, the M16 bolt is a bit heavier than the others, so I may get a lighter bolt, not sure, this may be trial and error
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Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
Does the Echo have a proprietary BCG?crazy2medic wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:21 pm My son has the Echo 2 on his AR and it functions flawlessly, I put one on my AR and it eats and jams about every 3rd round, i'm not sure how to diagnose the problem yet, the M16 bolt is a bit heavier than the others, so I may get a lighter bolt, not sure, this may be trial and error
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Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
Just states it requires a m16 bcg, the one I bought is a little heavier than the rest, so I'm going to get a lighter one and see if that's the cure!
I do like the fact that the echo 2 shows no outward appearance of the rifle being binary! Not sure about the other you mentioned!
I do like the fact that the echo 2 shows no outward appearance of the rifle being binary! Not sure about the other you mentioned!
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Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
Does your Echo use a 9 volt battery and if so does it drain the battery quickly?crazy2medic wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:20 am Just states it requires a m16 bcg, the one I bought is a little heavier than the rest, so I'm going to get a lighter one and see if that's the cure!
I do like the fact that the echo 2 shows no outward appearance of the rifle being binary! Not sure about the other you mentioned!
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Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
No Battery, all mechanical!thatguy wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:55 amDoes your Echo use a 9 volt battery and if so does it drain the battery quickly?crazy2medic wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:20 am Just states it requires a m16 bcg, the one I bought is a little heavier than the rest, so I'm going to get a lighter one and see if that's the cure!
I do like the fact that the echo 2 shows no outward appearance of the rifle being binary! Not sure about the other you mentioned!
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Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
A friend of my son's has 2 Franklin Armory binary triggers, one in an AR, the other in a Scorpion. He says the one in the Scorpion has been problem-free, but he had to fiddle with it to get the one in his AR to run.
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Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
I may add a binary, but not sure on what to pick. There is new models for the AK too.
I want reliability and performance at that price level.
I want reliability and performance at that price level.
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Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
I replaced the recoil buffer in my AR with a heavier buffer and test fired it today in binary, works perfectly!
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If you ain't paranoid you ain't paying attention
Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war let it begin here- John Parker
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Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war let it begin here- John Parker
Re: Binary Trigger for AR 15
I like the BFSIII. 
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