My wife and I go walking and jogging each day, and I carry my CCW with me.
My question is this:
Do I need to take my Texas Drivers License with me in addition to my CHL?
For some reason I am thinking I read somewhere that even when walking that a CHL holder needs his Drivers License also??
Thanks for your help and assistance !
gamboolman....
When Walking - Do I need Drivers License On My Person Also?
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You need some form of ID other than the CHL, and if you have a Texas driver license, you must display it:
- JimGC §411.205. DISPLAYING LICENSE; PENALTY. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
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Re: When Walking - Do I need Drivers License On My Person Al
gamboolman wrote:My wife and I go walking and jogging each day, and I carry my CCW with me.
My question is this:
Do I need to take my Texas Drivers License with me in addition to my CHL?
For some reason I am thinking I read somewhere that even when walking that a CHL holder needs his Drivers License also??
Thanks for your help and assistance !
gamboolman....
Texas Penal Code
§ 46.02. Unlawful Carrying Weapons.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control.
§ 46.15. Nonapplicability.
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
5) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code , to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is carrying;
Texas Government Code
§ 411.205. Displaying License; Penalty.
(a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license. A person who fails or refuses to display the license and identification as required by this subsection is subject to suspension of the person's license as provided by Section 411.187.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person fails or refuses to display the license and identification as required by Subsection (a) after previously having had the person's license suspended for a violation of that subsection. An offense under this subsection is a Class B misdemeanor.
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Not "some other form of ID" but specifically EITHER your Texas DL or Texas issued ID card.seamusTX wrote:You need some form of ID other than the CHL, and if you have a Texas driver license, you must display it:- JimGC §411.205. DISPLAYING LICENSE; PENALTY. (a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
An interesting twist is that Texas no longer issues Texas ID cards to out of state residents. So, this law seemingly would not apply to them; however, I would suggest they carry whatever ID their state issues along with the Texas CHL.
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That's what I was thinking of when I said "some form of ID other than the CHL."txinvestigator wrote:An interesting twist is that Texas no longer issues Texas ID cards to out of state residents. So, this law seemingly would not apply to them; however, I would suggest they carry whatever ID their state issues along with the Texas CHL.
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Correct.Abraham wrote:If I understand this correctly, I must not only carry my CHL but also an approved type I.D. if traveling other than by motor vehicle?
I wasn't living in Texas when the CHL law was passed and I paid no attention to the details. I can only guess.Abraham wrote:If my understanding is correct of course I will comply, but what's the reasoning? Isn't my photo on the CHL adequate?
The vast majority of occasions when a police officer asks for ID are traffic stops. Some police officials were concerned that CHL holders would do something dangerous when stopped. (This issue comes up in every state where new concealed-carry legislation is passed.) Therefore, the legislature said that if a police officer asks for ID, the CHL holder must display his driver license and CHL.
It's something of an accident of the way the law is written that it applies to requests other than traffic stops.
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I don't think most cops would care about the licence as long as the CHLer wasn't driving. Unless the officer just enjoyed trumping up charges.seamusTX wrote:More Kafkaesque. I think it's just an accident of the way the law is worded.Abraham wrote:Requiring an I.D. be carried for another document that is also a form of I.D. (in addition to being a license) seems almost Orwellian, at least to me.
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The narrow minded view that the only time you will have an LEO encounter is while driving a motor vehicle.Abraham wrote:If my understanding is correct of course I will comply, but what's the reasoning? Isn't my photo on the CHL adequate?
You see this narrow minded view in the new 46.02 exemption, "(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control."