ICE Shooting -Alex Pretti-Sig P320

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ICE Shooting -Alex Pretti-Sig P320

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Was the Sig P320 a factor in the ICE/Border Patrol Shooting of ICE protester Alex Pretti?


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Re: ICE Shooting -Alex Pretti-Sig P320

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Excellent article and well worth the 5 minute read on the incident involving Mr. Pretti by Bill Shipley, 22+ years as a federal prosecutor; eight years private practice:

https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/20 ... 7477076147

He has removed the paywall behind the article he links to, which is below:
https://shipwreckedcrew.substack.com/p/ ... e-of-force
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Re: ICE Shooting -Alex Pretti-Sig P320

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That is an interesting and well written article. I am surprised that he is only the second person I have seen mention contagious shooting, which is what I believe happened in this case. I think, from what I have seen in videos and read about this case, that the officer who grabbed Pretti's gun and took it out of the area accidentally fired it while he was moving away from the fight (and despite the pistol being a 320, I think it went off because the officer squeezed the trigger without realizing it). Either this accidental shooting caused the officer's in the fight to think Pretti still had a weapon and had just fired it himself. Two of them "returned fire" at him because of this or they could have also just fired as a response to hearing the shot in what is called contagious shooting.

In either case, this is a tragedy but not an illegal shooting. And, yes, I know I am drawing conclusions from possibly very faulty data and I could very well be wrong.
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srothstein wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 10:51 pm That is an interesting and well written article. I am surprised that he is only the second person I have seen mention contagious shooting, which is what I believe happened in this case. I think, from what I have seen in videos and read about this case, that the officer who grabbed Pretti's gun and took it out of the area accidentally fired it while he was moving away from the fight (and despite the pistol being a 320, I think it went off because the officer squeezed the trigger without realizing it). Either this accidental shooting caused the officer's in the fight to think Pretti still had a weapon and had just fired it himself. Two of them "returned fire" at him because of this or they could have also just fired as a response to hearing the shot in what is called contagious shooting.

In either case, this is a tragedy but not an illegal shooting. And, yes, I know I am drawing conclusions from possibly very faulty data and I could very well be wrong.
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Re: ICE Shooting -Alex Pretti-Sig P320

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There can be bad shootings, that are not morally ok, that are legally justified.

Moral does not always equal legal; and Immoral does not always equal illegal.

Bad training, high stress (whistles much) or just having an off day can all lead to decisions that are not complete up to snuff with one's own moral/professional standard while still being within the realm of legally permissible based on case law.
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