my disastrous disaster kits

[Venus Pax]

During the summer of last year, during hurricane season, I put together two disaster evacuation kits. One was for myself and the pets, and the other was for Mars and the pets. My goal was for one of us to be able to leave within five minutes with our basic essentials and the pets. Even if we were separated, the kit had the basics and all information necessary for us to reconnect at a safe location.


I packed each box with 4 1/2 gallons of water, non-perishable food items, a few towels, dish towels, eating utensils, dishes, batteries, toilet paper, paper towels, trash bags, pet foods, walkie-talkies with batteries, pet foods, insurance papers and out-of-town family contacts and lots of other information. (I didn't bother packing guns & ammo, since those go with us anyway.)

It was a good plan in theory, but life has never been a mere theory. Since I have the day off from work, I thought it would be a good day to get into those kits in the closet and cycle out all of the water and food.

I'm both sorry and glad I checked. At least one water jug leaked in each kit. Mars's kit wasn't too bad. Since the water hadn't been sitting too long, his change of clothes and paperwork were salvageable. There's no telling how long ago my water jugs busted. When I opened the lid, the smell of mold nearly knocked me down. The smell of raw sewage might have been more pleasant. I probably left the lid open too long in my quest to determine what was salvageable. (Walkie talkies in the plastic bags on top and my dishes were the only salvageable items.) I had to drag both kits outside. They will need to be trashed.
My guest closet now reeks, and I'm nauseated.
I spent close to $100 last year putting these kits together, which has made for a rather expensive lesson.

Here's my new plan:
I'll pack non-food and water type items in old kitty litter buckets. (Pet food will still get packed, but cycled every six months.) Rather than pack food and water, I'll put cash in smaller denominations in the ziplocks with my insurance papers. If there is time to pack food and water, we'll take it. If not, we'll fall back on the cash.

This experience was expensive, annoying, and nauseating. I thought I'd share so no one here will make the same mistake.

[Tactical_Texan_CHL]

Eeeewww! It sounds like you learned a valuable and smelly lesson. Unfortuately, I have 2 of those almost exact packs in my attic right now!!! I'm scared to go look or smell! I also have with my emergency kits, a military style duffel bag packed with weapons and ammo. I have 2 SKS rifles with synthetic stocks wrapped in those giant ziplock style gun bags with a dessicant pack in each one, 2 Glock 17's packed the same, and 1000 rounds of each 7.62x39 and 9mm. You can never be too prepared.

[HighVelocity]

My bug-out bags contain packets of hydration gel instead of bottles of water. I have been in your shoes.

[Skiprr]

Good thing you checked!

One thing you might want to consider is a dry, portable water treatment or filtration system. I picked up a few called "LifePack" last year at Sam's; I think they were under $20 a piece, and each can filter up to three liters per day for three days. I have some chlorination tablets from an emergency kit I bought a few years ago, but the LifePack stuff looks better: http://www.hydrationtech.com/.

My preference would be real, bottled water , but if that gets used up, this looks like a viable Plan B that's easy to store and carry (the box is under 1.2 lbs. and about the size of a thick 6"x8" book).

We had a Topic last hurricane season about bug-out bags. Something I added to mine--after hearing John Farnam's recommendation--were two things for first-response trauma care: "The Emergency Bandage" and QuickClot. I had the usual first-aid stuff, but a thin gauze pad and a bandaid won't do the trick if there's a large wound and someone's bleading out...and seconds count.

A good source I found for those products, and some pre-packaged kits, is http://www.bestglide.com/. It's a Texas company that specializes in (and Charles will like this) "Aviation Survival Equipment."

[KD5NRH]

I'll pack non-food and water type items in old kitty litter buckets. (Pet food will still get packed, but cycled every six months.) Rather than pack food and water, I'll put cash in smaller denominations in the ziplocks with my insurance papers. If there is time to pack food and water, we'll take it.

Vacuum sealers are cheap these days; grab a Rival sealer at Walmart for under $50 and use it to seal up packets with your documents and some long-life ready-to-eat snacks like trail mix. Watch the sealed packets for a day or two before storing them if you're not used to using these things; sometimes pointy bits on the sealed item can poke through the bag and cause the seal to be lost.

Keep water in small bottles in the vehicles and around the house; you don't want to have to open large jugs just for drinking, exposing them to possible contamination and spillage.

While you're at it, toss two quarts of oil into each vehicle and premix yourself some antifreeze (don't pay extra for premix, just hang on to an empty antifreeze jug and turn your next full one into two jugs of ready-to-use - label them clearly) so you don't have to waste drinking water on that in a pinch.

Incidentally, if you can still find 64-128M flash drives, they're dirt cheap. (even larger ones can be had in multi-packs cheaply) While they're not really suitable as a primary means of carrying a house inventory, insurance photos, and other documents, they are small and nearly indestructable if stored in waterproof match containers. Again, this would be a one-per-vehicle thing, or you might get larger ones for day-to-day use and keep them on each person. If you just have to bug out to stay with family or friends, and will have access to a computer there, they could save having to type everything back in from hardcopies.

Of course, you could also vacuum seal a Glock and a couple spare mags in each kit.
I think I'd be more inclined to find a small, durable .22 target pistol for the kits, though; my carry pistol wasn't chosen for its small-game-getting ability, nor do I carry enough defense ammo to use it up on bunnies and squirrels.

[troglodyte]

Good reminder Venus. Always check and reevaluate.

Here's something I worked up for a friend who moved to Houston. A little background. She is single and has a medical condition that limits her mobility and strength to a point. She also has no experience in these matters. I tried to tailor it for her and her situation. It may provide ideas for others here.

I can't take credit for any of this. I begged, borrowed, and stole from other's lists and websites. I just tried to get it shaped together for her needs.

Dear XXXXX,

Here’s what I came up with. Don’t be overwhelmed, it does look like a lot but you probably have a most of these items already. It is just a matter of organization. For the items you need to pick up, don’t think you have to get them all at once. Start with the most important first, water, food, 1st aid, and then add as you have funds. Water is cheap, food you have, and a good, basic first aid kit is pretty cheap. After that, an item or two every time you go to Wal-mart and you’re set in a few months. If you want to be more aggressive, that’s up to you. These items may also be a good thing to put on your Christmas list. Many of them make great stocking stuffers.

This plan primarily deals with hurricanes but be aware of other emergency situations. Most of the gear and supplies can be used in case of other weather events or in case of terrorism or civil unrest.

I don’t know your position or background with firearms or handguns. For a female in your position, I would ask you to consider a hand gun or at least a stun gun, even a big stick. If you decide this is something you are interested in, I will be glad to talk with you more about specifics. In addition, IF you think this may be something you might want to do, I encourage you to take a firearms safety course and get some training. Many ranges have classes for women and cater to there specific needs.

Not to try to alarm you are scare you into a position you don’t feel comfortable in, but a female alone on the road, or in an emergency situation, is very tempting for predators. I could go on for I feel all citizens should be armed at all times but I will talk to you about it more if you are interested. If this does not interest you, that is fine. It is a personal decision and one that you must have the mindset for. It is not a decision to make lightly.

If you find yourself in a situation where communications are down (no phone or cell phone) you still have several options. The Red Cross often has some type of communication for victims. You can also find a HAM (amateur) radio operator and they can pass a message on. Ham’s can usually be found at the communication stations at shelters or look for RACES and/or ARES. These are both amateur radio organizations that operate during emergencies. Better yet, find a Ham you know. More than likely there is one at school or at your congregation. Just ask around. They should be happy to help you or tell you how to contact someone by with a health and welfare communication. They may even tell you where to go or who to get in contact with if there is another emergency.

There are many sites on the internet that have item lists. I encourage you to check them out. Some are good, some are general, and some are overboard. I have tried to give you good basic kits. I don’t pretend to be an expert so evaluate these and adapt them for your own needs. I hope you never have to use them but I’m glad you will be better prepared if you do.

Here’s a few sites
http://www.redcross.org
http://www.ready.gov
http://www.fema.gov/areyouready/

If you do a “survival� or “preparedness� search you will come up with hundreds of sites.

[troglodyte]

Disaster Supply List
Per Person

BOB (Bug out Bag)

• Backpack w/ a copy of what is in it.
• Water (2 liters)
• Water purification tablets or filter
• Small 1st aid kit
• Snacks
o PB Crackers
o Power Bars
o Hard candies
• Light Sticks (2)
• Small flashlight
o 2AA Minimag
o Extra batteries
• Emergency Blanket
• Large heavy duty trash bag (1)
• Duct Tape – small roll
• Bandanna
• Road map – Highlighted
o Main route – one color
o Alternate route – another color
• Important phone numbers
• Important documents (or copies)
• Extra ATM or Debit card
• Extra Checkbook
• Extra Cash ($50 min)
• Rain gear
• Hat
• Gloves
• Pen, pencil, and note pad
• Bug repellant
• Matches (waterproof) and lighter
• Lock blade knife
• 25’ of ¼� rope
• Zip Lock bags – Gallon (2)
• Toilet paper
• Toiletries
o Soap
o Deodorant
o Tooth paste
o Tooth brush
o Feminine Hygiene
o Small trash bag
• Prescription meds/extra prescription
• OTC meds
• Whistle
• Leatherman type multitool - optional

Explanation of BOB items

(I hope these explanations do not question your intelligence. I have found many people that have not thought about these things and a little explanation clears the air.)

Hopefully you will have plenty of time to pack and get your business taken care of before you have to leave. A BOB is a quick to grab bag in case you have to hit the road fast. It will provide the basics to get you out. It is already packed in case you do have time so you don’t have to worry with getting the basics together. That leaves you more time to gather personal items and/or shut down the house.

All the supplies can fit in the backpack. Check the school’s lost and found, they may have one that nobody has claimed. If not, Wal-Mart has some for less than $15.00. Most of the items are found at Wal-Mart, so pick up an item or two every time you go and it won’t be an expensive burden. Keep a copy of the supplies with it. It let’s you inventory what you should have and reminds you of what you have if you are bugging out.

Water is very important. 2 liters will get you through a day or will get you down the road if you are separated from your vehicle. I would get a small bottle of water purification tablets, they are usually iodine or chlorine based. Wal-Mart camping section. I like the chlorine base ones better (taste is not so bad) but either will work. Just follow the directions on the label. Some people are allergic to iodine. Most people can tolerate the chlorine better. Filters are nice but an added expense. Hang on to the empty bottles. They can be used again to purify water in or to fill up if you come across potable water somewhere.

The 1st aid kit is a personal thing. Just a small backpacking kit will do for your BOB. Wal-mart has a small kit, not much larger than a deck of cards over in the camping supplies. You can get as big as you want and want to carry. All of your 1st aid kits should have latex gloves. If not, buy a small box and distribute to your other kits. Don’t worry if you have to buy a box of 100 gloves, they’re cheap and you’ll find lots of uses for them around the house.

Snacks will give you the energy to make it through a day or two. Energy bars, GORP, peanut butter crackers, and hard candies will keep your internal furnace going. Stay light in the BOB. Pack what you will eat. Trade the items out every few months. Watch expiration dates.

Light sticks, because batteries will die. Also light sticks can be used for signaling or ambient or area light for up to 12 hours. Nice little night light if you happen to have to spend the night on the side of the road. Color is up to you. Green seems to give the most light and last the longest. Orange is good for signaling or as a road flare. You might come across some high intensity light sticks. These are good for about 30 min. I would stay with the 8-12 hours ones. Watch for sales after Halloween. You can sometimes find them at a good price. Light sticks last 2-5 years then start degrading. I have used some that were over 5 years old and they seemed to work OK.

Go with a good Minimag® flashlight. They are durable, have an extra bulb in the tail cap, and can be found for about $10. I never have enough of them. Get a pack of AA batteries.

Emergency blankets take up little room, cost a couple of bucks, and will reflect body heat. These are about the size of a deck of cards and look like silver mylar.

Trash bags, what can’t they be used for? Trash, ground cloth, tape over broken window, cut out head and arm holes for a rain poncho, store clothes in, or even a make-shift backpack.

Duct tape, what can I say? Find a small roll or wrap some around you flashlight and water bottles.

Bandanna can be used as a small towel, napkin, do-rag, compression bandage, dust mask, etc.

The roadmap should be highlighted with your evacuation routes. Highlight the main and alternate routes in different colors so you don’t get confused in an emergency situation. It might also be useful to print out the directions off of mapquest.com to your evacuation destination. At least get exit numbers/streets and know the next number or street and how to back-track if you can’t get off at the right place. Make sure you alternate route(s) avoid major roads and highways. In the event of a massive evacuation you are going to be competing with thousands of others. Knowing some good back roads or other routes may prove invaluable. Make sure any back roads are passable in the event of flooding. Also be aware, if you are getting out late and the wind is picking up, there may be downed power lines, poles, or trees on the smaller roads.

Important numbers such as family and friend phone numbers and addresses. Also, insurance company phone number, policy number(s), bank account number, etc. Make sure you have the number to the local emergency offices along the evacuation route and the State number for the DPS Roadside Assistance (1-800-525-555). It is also on the back of your DL.

Copies of insurance policies, titles, deeds, birth certificates, driver’s lic., etc. It would be better to have the originals but these will help if you have to get out fast.

Stash away an extra debit/ATM card and at least a few checks. If you have to leave quickly, you might forget your purse. If you are sure to grab your BOB, you will have easy means of getting cash.

Extra cash. This is the hard one to stash away and leave alone. I would have a minimum of $50 in my bag. Probably should have more. Start with a twenty and stick an extra five or ten in every week or even every paycheck. In a matter of a few months you will have a nice little stash. Remember, ATMs, debit cards, credit cards, and checks may not work or be accepted during an emergency. Greenbacks are rarely turned down. Keep the denominations small, no larger than a $20. People may not have change. A roll or two of quarters would be a nice addition.

If you are fleeing a hurricane, you may get caught up in the storms. Rain gear can keep you dry and warm if you have to move around in the rain. You may need to change or repair a tire or even get out and walk to shelter. I’ve been on I-45 and there are long stretches of nothing. If I had to walk in the rain, I’d want at least a poncho. The choice of rain gear is up to you. You can get a coat and pants at Wal-mart for pretty cheap. They are durable enough to weather a storm or two. Stay away from the flimsy, thin plastic ponchos or raincoats. They will be shredded in the wind in a matter of minutes. Get decent PVC plastic gear. If you want to go more (way more) expensive, Columbia makes good gear (for a couple of hundred bucks!).

Just a ball cap will do. Nothing fancy, just something to keep the sun off your head and out of your eyes. A military boonie cap is great. They have a neck strap to help keep it on your head. Wal-mart, Academy, and just about any where else that carry camping goods. You can have your choice of colors…as long as it is olive green or some type of camo.

A cheap pair of Jersey knit gloves will help protect your hands if you have to work on something, move downed limbs, and even do a decent job of keeping your hands warm. A decent pair of leather ones is even better but cost a little more.


Stationary is the last thing people think about taking, after all, who are you going to write? A pen/pencil (and even a sharpie) with a notepad can be very valuable. You may want to write down directions, phone numbers, ideas, or things you could use next time. You may also have to leave a note on your car in case you have to abandon it. There are lots of uses.

If you have to hit the shoe leather, and I’ve seen the bugs down there, you’ll need some bug repellant. Just a small tube, bottle, or can will do. Maybe even a couple of the towelette kinds. Something small.

Matches and a lighter. Get the waterproof kind (Wal-mart camping department) and keep them in a watertight container (a film canister works well if you can find one. Try the photo counter at…you guessed it…Wal-mart. They may have one they can let you have). A lighter is great because it doesn’t ruin if it gets wet. Let it dry out and you are good to go. You may want to include some type of fire starter. They make some in a stick or jelly form but even cotton balls coated with petroleum jelly will work well. Store in a film canister or zip lock bag.

Get a knife that the blade locks back. This keeps the blade from folding up if you have to work the knife into something and cutting your fingers. Gerber makes a pretty good one for about $30 (Wal-mart). Don’t skimp on the knife. You may find one for $5 but it will not be worth that. You need at least a 2-3� blade. Don’t go over about 5-6� blade, it simply isn’t needed.

The ¼� cord is good for lots of things. Braided nylon is preferred. Stay away from the poly rope. Hard to work with and doesn’t hold knots well.

Gallon size freezer bags are great for keeping things dry, storing thing in, and even as a canteen if needed. Get a box and you will find a lot of uses. You’ll use some to store and organize some of these supplies but stash a couple of extras away, you’ll find a need for them.

Toiletries are a personal thing but make sure you have the basics. Toilet paper is often overlooked when packing (keep it dry in a zip lock. See I told you you’d use them). Toothbrush/paste, deodorant, soap, etc. may be “luxuries� but they will really help your moral if you can keep relatively clean. The soap is also good if you have to clean a wound or wash clothes. Throw in a small trash bag (or zip lock) for your trash. I won’t get into the Feminine Hygiene supplies. You work that out. Get the motel soap or go down the sample aisle at Wal-mart. Stay small.

Pack up extra prescription meds and see if your doctor will write you an extra prescription, even if it is just for a week or two worth of pills. Pack in some OTC drugs. Think about what you normally take, Tylenol, allergy medicine, Antacids, etc. Walk down the OTC aisle at Wal-mart and ask yourself, “do I take this on any kind of regular basis, could I need this, and would it be nice to have if I was stuck out in traffic� (anti-diarrhea come to mind)? You don’t have to pack a full box. If you have some of these at home, take a few doses out and pack away.

Whistle is for signaling or alerting.

The optional Leatherman multi-tool is handy. It has several tools on it including screwdrivers, pliers, and wire cutters. Nice to have if you need to fix minor things.






This bag will get you out of town fast. You will have the necessities to survive for a couple of days or longer with just the pack on your back. Compliment this with your car kit and anything that you might get to pack and you’ll be as safe as a bunch of supplies can make you. Remember, the most important thing to pack is your brain. Don’t panic. Fear can be good but don’t let it freeze you. Think things through. There are lots of possibilities in this pack, be creative.

There are other things that you can put in. That is up to you and how much you want to carry. All of this will fit in a back pack and will not weigh too much (10 lbs or less). You may want to throw in a sweat top or a some other comfort item. Personalize it as you need to for your purposes. This is just a start. Be careful not to get too carried away (like I do) or you will end up with a pack you cannot carry. The whole idea is something basic and light enough that you can walk with for an extended time.

Depending on what you have around the house, you can get all of these supplies for $100-150, including the $50 cash to stash away. That might sound like a lot, and at any given time it is, but if you pick up items over several months, it doesn’t hurt. Many of these things you may already have, like an extra flashlight. If it is durable use it, if it is not very durable throw it in for now and change it out later. Better to have something than nothing. Most of this can be found in the sport goods department at Wal-mart. Wander the aisles and you will get all sorts of ideas for things you could use. Don’t be like me though, I tend to think I have to have everything in my BOB. I have to weed things out and see what is really needed and important.

Remember to rotate out the water, snacks, and batteries every so often (6 months or so). You can eat, drink and use the “old� ones and replace with new items. This also allows you to check your BOB on a regular basis and review what is in it.

Store the BOB an easily accessible place but out of the way. I would keep it off the floor. Maybe a shelf in a closet or in a cabinet in the kitchen. You want to keep it up higher so as not to invite little visitors to take up residence or eat your stash.

[troglodyte]

Car Kit (Store in Trunk) (put in a copy of the contents)

• Water (2 Gallons)
• Metal cup
• Canned or packaged food for a couple of days
o Beanie Weenies
o MREs
o Etc.
• Light Sticks (2)
• Flashlight (C or D celled)
• Sleeping bag or blanket
• Prescriptions
• Extra set of clothes
• Duct tape
• Trash Bags (2 large)
• Road Map – Highlighted
o Main Route one color
o Alternate Route another color
• Compass
• Cash (small amount - $25)
• Rain Poncho or Coat
• Towel
• Wet Ones
• Toilet Paper
• 3/8� nylon rope – 50’
• Oil – 2 qts
• Antifreeze (50/50 mix)
• Tire repair kit
• Fix-a-flat
• Small tool kit
• Small folding shovel
• Jumper cables
• List of important numbers
• Copies of documents
• 1st aid kit with OTCs
• Toiletries
• Fire extinguisher
• 9x12 plastic sheet or tarp
• Candles
• Car cell phone charger
• A friend

Explanation of Car Kit items

These are items that you should keep in your trunk. They can be stored in a small box or some type of plastic container. You could store most of the emergency gear in a five gallon bucket with a lid. If you have these in your car you can leave straight from school and not have to go home to get the BOB and still have the very basics. Not quite as complete as you usually should have time to grab your BOB. If in doubt, grab your BOB before you head out.

Most of these items are explained above so I will just flesh out the other items.

I want to touch on the extra water. Your car can be thought of as a moving motel room. If you have extra water you can live out of a car for as long as you can stand it. A couple of extra gallons of water can get you by for 2-3 days except in the hottest weather. I like to buy the one liter screw top water bottles. It takes eight of them to make 2 gallons but the screw top is more secure and I have never had one freeze and burst.

The metal cup can be used to drink out of , obviously, but you can also heat water in it for a warm drink or soup. Secure the candle and carefully heat water in the cup over the candle.

The MREs are “Meals Ready to Eat�. The military uses them. They are self-contained meals that will keep for 5 yrs or more and hold their taste and consistency fairly well in varying temperatures. These are not gourmet foods but they will get you by and are reasonably tasty. If you think you would like some, there are plenty of place to order them from on the internet and I know there will be places in Houston that you can find them. Look for an Army/Navy surplus store. Find a male friend to go get you some. Some of these places are in the less savory parts of town.

You should have food for a couple of days. This doesn’t necessarily mean 3 square meals but enough to keep you from getting weak. If you pack some canned foods, make sure they have easy opening tops or carry a small, cheap can opener, or in a pinch use the Leatherman or knife to open cans. Personally, I would stay away from cans. Freezing is not normally a problem down there but you never know. I’d pack more energy bars, fruit snacks, or go ahead and pack several MREs. Make sure you can eat what ever you pack cold. Don’t count on having a fire. Water is always most important but food can brighten your outlook on the situation. Packets of soups are light and easy to fix, assuming you have a fire. The single serve drink mixes go a long way in making plain water much more enjoyable. I choose a couple of days because of the situation I saw during the Rita evacuation. If you would have gotten caught in the huge traffic jam you may have been stranded for a day or two. While you would rather not be stranded on the Interstate during a hurricane, you may not have a choice. If you have your BOB and move the emergency items from the Car Kit into the interior, you could camp out for several days without ever having to leave the vehicle. Call of Nature you say, why do you think I said to pack zip lock and trash bags???? Not the most pleasing thought but it beats traipsing off to the bushes, in the dark, with the rain pelting you, as Rita tries to blow you away. Seeing the situations I see?

Sleeping bag or blankets are useful if you have to stay overnight on the road, you get stuck in a shelter or building, or in case of someone is hurt and in shock. For your part of the country, a cheap sleeping bag will do. Even if you are driving home to Lubbock, a 40º bag will work on the coldest nights if you stay in the car and have some layers of clothes. I found one in a camping catalog (http://www.campmor.com) for about $15. Check around or you may even have one.

I wouldn’t keep prescription drugs in the car. Heat can break down the compounds and the drugs won’t be any good. If you can, get and keep a prescription in the car you can get it filled up the road. If you can’t keep a prescription (or can’t get one), keep a list of your meds, names, dosage, doctor’s name and phone number, and other info. This will allow a doctor to know what you are on and how much. They will be more likely to give you a new prescription more quickly.

A change of clothes is wonderful if you had to leave fast and end up somewhere (even a evacuation center). You can wear one set and wash the other. A change of clothes can make you feel much better. Make sure they are seasonal. A t-shirt and shorts may not be the best in the winter, even in Houston. Jeans, t-shirt, and a sweat top will cover most weather conditions just about anywhere in Texas if you have the other gear with you. You might consider getting nylon or Polypropylene clothes. They dry faster. Stay away from cotton as much as possible. Doesn’t dry fast. Layer for warmth. An extra pair of shoes might be worth it. Even if you get stuck around town, you would have some old shoes in case you need to cross muddy ground or water. Also nice if you are wearing dress shoes and need to walk a ways. Much more comfortable.

Another road map, after all, they are light and you should have a Texas map in your car anyway. Highlight the same routes as the ones in your BOB. You may want to consider a Louisiana map also. You never know, you may have to head that way.

A compass is good to have in case you get turned around and need to figure out which way you are going. Store it with you map.

Cash again, smaller amount, just in case. $25 will fill your tank enough to get down the road. It’s also good in case you’re just around town and need gas or have a flat and you don’t have your purse.

More rain gear, you might need it anytime, not just in a disaster. Maybe a lighter set if you know you will have your BOB with your good set in it.

I always need a towel. It can also be used as a small blanket or ground cloth.

Wet Ones or some other pre-moistened towellette are great. I would keep them in the glove box. You may have water, soap and a towel but these are so quick and easy to use. Plus they don’t take up any space. I would probably even throw a couple in my BOB if I bought a box. I found some that were packaged as singles at Wal-mart.

Toilet paper again (in the zip lock bag). You can hardly have too much TP stashed away.

Put in a couple of quarts of oil in case you need to top off your car. I know you probably service your car regularly, and that is great, but I like to keep an extra qt. or two around.

Antifreeze mixture in case your car starts to over heat. You might want to split this with a friend. Buy a gallon and spit it with a friend. Fill the rest of the gallon up with distilled water. Now both you and your friend have extra antifreeze. By the way, antifreeze is also a coolant for the summer. You may know this but I’ve run across more than a few people that didn’t

You can pick up a tire repair kit over in the auto department at Wal-mart. It has a couple of tools that reams the hole and one that inserts a plug. Get the ones with the T-handles. I think one brand is Monkey Grip. You might get a cheap pair of needle nose pliers (or your Leatherman) to pull out nails and screws. To fix a tire you locate the nail (or what ever is in the tire) or hole. Place a plug in the plugger tool. Now pull out the object with the pliers. Insert the reamer. This enlarges the hole and roughs it up. As the air is whistling out, insert the plug tool. Push it in until there is about 1/2'� of plug left on the outside of the tire. Pull the tool out. This should stop the leak. I have always had very good luck with these. It is sometimes hard to push the reamer and plug tool into the tire. Even if it is too hard for you to do, maybe a good Samaritan will help. They can’t help if you don’t have the tools.

This brings us to the Fix-a-Flat. If you just fixed a hole in the tire, you probably need air. Carrying an air tank is not too practical. If you look around where you found the tire plug kit, you should see some products that are basically air in a can with a little tube that connects to the valve stem of the tire. You can get one that seals the tire (in case you can’t plug the hole, it does take some effort sometimes). This will get you down the road and hopefully to a service station that can help you. If your tire has a big hole, you’ll have to change it., you do know how to change a tire don’t you? Check your spare and make sure it has enough air. You do have a tire gauge…?

A small tool kit is nice. Just some screwdrivers, pliers, etc. You can probably pick up a small, complete set at Sears or maybe even Wal-mart. Stay with some quality. Don’t pick up cheap, made in China, stuff. It usually doesn’t work, fit, or last.

A shovel can help you dig out your car, dig a latrine pit, bury your trash, or cover up a fire. I’m not sure if Wal-mart carries them but you can find a folding army shovel at the surplus and camping stores (Academy). Ask around, someone will know where to find them.

Jumper cables will always allow you to get jumped off if your battery dies.

I like to have a larger 1st aid kit in the car. Don’t get carried away. Put some OTCs in there.

Pack away a few more toiletries.

Fire extinguisher – you’ll know when you need it.

Plastic sheet or tarp for ground cloth, make-shift tent, even as a blanket. 8x10’ or 9x12’

Candles provide light and you’d be surprised at how much heat if you’re in a car. Be careful, leave a window cracked and don’t catch anything on fire. Tea candles will work but see if you can find some long lasting candles in the sporting goods section.

I worked a shelter over the weekend for the Rita evacuees in Lubbock. You’d be surprised how many of them had their cell phones but no charger. Keep at least a car charger stashed in your car. If you want to pack a house charger, that’s up to you.

If you have to get out of town, I figure you’re probably heading to your sister’s house in San Antonio. Take a friend. Get them to put together a BOB (maybe you can split boxes of items) and carpool. One young lady on the road, or worse yet, beside the road, is just asking for trouble. Come to think of it, it would be good to have a buddy with you in any event even sheltering-in-place. I’m not trying to alarm you, just trying to suggest what I feel is a good policy to help keep you safer.

Most of the real “emergency� stuff will fit in the bucket. The regular car stuff can just be store in the trunk. Find a milk crate or soda crate and load it up. The crate will keep everything in one place better. Plus the bucket and/or crate make decent stools if you decide to sit by the side of the road.

[troglodyte]

Shelter in Place Kit (Store in a closet or under a bed) (put in a copy of contents)

• Water – 3 Gallons minimum
• Water purification
• Food – Canned or dry food that requires little or no preparation – 3 day minimum, a week to 14 days is better for hurricane country. Longer the better, even up to a year.
• Prescriptions and OTCs
• Toilet Paper and other sanitation items.
• Change of clothes
• Flashlight w/batteries
• Weather Radio w/batteries
• Plastic sheeting - 9x12’
• Duct tape
• Cash ($25 min. – you should have the cash in your BOB also)
• Propane or camp fuel lantern – optional
• Propane or camp fuel stove – optional
• Candles
• Fire extinguisher
• 14� crescent wrench




Explanation of Shelter in Place Kit

This is an easier one since you are still at home and have access to all of your household items. It is nice though to have these gathered in one place. If you do have to evacuate to a shelter or move to a more secure structure, it is easier to move if it is gathered up already.

Most of these are pretty self-explanatory. The sheeting can be used to close off windows (especially if they break). Get some thicker ply. Wal-mart should have some that is thicker than even heavy-duty trash bags. The thicker the better. It will last longer if it becomes your new window. A staple gun helps putting this up. Use ½� staples at least. You can always hammer them down if you need to.

Get some water purification tablets, you may run out of stored water. Remember that you can use the water out of the toilet TANK and the water heater. It is still clean. In a pinch, about 16 drops of bleach to a gallon of water (and let it sit for 30 min) will disinfect water. Doesn’t taste too good but it works. If you have a stove, you can boil water (again for 30 min.). Pour the water back and forth while it cools or the water will taste “flat�. A few packets of pre-sweetened drink mix (Kool-aid, Crystal Light, Wal-mart brand) helps cover the bleach and flat taste.

Weather Radio. If you can find a portable one that is also AM/FM even better. Keeps you in touch with what is going on and can provide some company. This should be handy in the house, maybe on the bedside table. If storms threaten, turn it on. Most have a way to shut off the constant weather conditions and only activate if there is a alarm in your county. It’s called, S.A.M.E technology. If you have to get out of dodge, throw it in your BOB. There are some that are solar and crank powered. Maybe a little much but if you happen across one a good price, why not? If all you have is a portable AM/FM radio, that will do. Don’t forget the extra batteries. And rotate the batteries when you change your smoke alarm batteries.

As an aside, don’t store batteries in the flashlights or radios unless you use them regularly. They will leak and ruin the device. You can keep the device and batteries stored in, what else but, a zip lock bag.

The lantern and stove are in case you have to ride it out or come back before utilities are restored. A big factor here is fire and carbon monoxide. If you use these indoors, make sure they are away from flammable objects or substances and only use them while you are awake and with a window or door cracked. These are a little more pricey but you can sometimes find them on sale or at a garage sale. I wouldn’t consider these first priority, but may be nice later. Candles and a can of Sterno will go a long ways for pretty cheap. (Edit – I found a propane camp stove at Wal-mart for $14. Throw in a couple of canisters of propane for $5 and you have heat and something to cook on for $20). Propane is easier and cleaner to work with. Camp fuel is cheaper but harder to store and messy. Personally, I think you’d be better off with propane. A couple of canisters will cook a lot of meals.

I don’t know if you have access to your water, electricity, and gas (assuming you have gas service). The crescent wrench is to turn off the water and gas if you need to evacuate or if there is damage while you are at home. Just turn the flat valve handle to the left 90º on both the water and gas. Don’t assume that the landlord will turn them off. Find out if you can turn off your utilities or which ones you can turn off and practice. You may need a different tool. At least flip your breakers off and turn off the water to the kitchen and bathroom sinks and the toilet before you leave.

These are easy to store in a plastic trash can. Get one that has a top that snaps on. It doesn’t have to be a big one, just large enough to hold the items.
A few odds and ends

I’ve copied an article that deals with urban evacuations. It’s pretty good but you will need to adapt it for your situation(s). They talk about boarding up your residence. Not a bad idea if you have the time and ability. It might be that Dad could help you get the plywood cut and figure out how to attach it securely and easily. It might save your apartment and belongings but after all, they are just stuff. If you have time to grab the keepsakes, great, let the insurance company take care of the rest. If you have time, move what you can to an inside room with no windows, maybe a closet.

The month or so before the start of Hurricane Season go through and check everything. Check your BOBs, Shelter-in-place supplies, and the pantry. Rotate and replace what you need to, take inventory and review uses, and stock up the pantry. Get an extra can or two of your most used veggies and meat (tuna, chicken, whatever you like). Maybe an extra bag of rice and beans. Just a few dollars and you have several days of food. Ten extra canned foods, a bag of rice, and a bag of beans will get you through a week and costs less than $15. You can always eat it later. These are good to have around all the time, not just during hurricanes. There are other types of emergency situations.

Depending on where you live and the terrain, you may wish to get everything off the floor, assuming you are on the ground floor. Don’t overlook localized flooding, even if it is just in the yard. Lots of rain in a short period of time can run into your apartment before it drains off. Also remember that the sewers may back up even if there is no flooding at your location.

In the case of you sheltering in place, try to park your car facing into the storm, away from trees and utility poles and away from other things that may fall on it or block you in. Park in the highest place possible. Parking behind a building has good and bad points. It may block most of the debris and wind but the roof may end up on your car. Keep your car close. If you are sure you are staying, get the gear out of the trunk. You may not have a chance to get back to your car. You’ll have to survey your options, pick the best one, and live with it.

I have given you a lot of tools and suggestions. That’s great, for me. I know what to do with them and I have tried to pass that on to you in the best way I know how. Now it is up to you to do something with it. If you just get these things together, stash them away, and forget about them, they will be of little use to you if you need them. Take time as you are putting them together and think of situations that you might use them and how you might use them. Think of different ways to use them. Play a mental game as you are driving around or messing around at home. Ask yourself, “what street would I take if this one was flooded?� “Where would I go if I got stranded?� “Where is the nearest evacuation shelter, police or fire station, or other emergency organizations?� “What would I do if my window blew out?� “Can I stack everything up on the table or bed?� It doesn’t have to be a life consuming game, just keep it in the back of your head and be aware of situations or options as they arise. You’ll be a lot further along than most people by simply running a few situations through your head.

You might want to consider getting a few Rubbermaid type containers, about the size of paper boxes, and keeping them stored in a handy, yet out-of-the-way place. These would come in to play if you have time to pack up some stuff before leaving. You can pack clothes, food, keepsakes, etc. and they are sturdy and water resistant. Don’t get them too big or you will over pack them and have a hard time carrying them.




I need to mention footwear. You may be stuck with what you are wearing or what you have in the car BOB. If you have the chance, pick up some heavy, thick soled shoes or better, boots. You can find some cheaper pairs at Wal-mart or Payless. They may not last too long or be the most comfortable but if you have to move around after the storm has past, you’ll want some protection from nails and such. The heavy soles will help prevent the nails from going through the shoe to your foot.

Make sure your shots are up-to-date including Hepatitis, Tetanus and flu.

During Hurricane Season I would never let my car get below half full of gas. Not below ¾ would be nice but may not be that practical. If you see a storm thinking of coming your way, tank up early and often. Fill up every day if you have to. You saw what happened with Rita. If you have a place that you can safely store 5 gallons at your apartment, it might be worth it. Just remember to rotate the gas every few months or it will go bad. Just use it to fill up your tank and refill the gas can. They do make a gas stabilizer that will allow you to keep gas longer. You’d find it at a hardware store (Sta-bil is one brand). If you rotate it every 4-6 months you shouldn’t have a problem. I don’t recommend carrying gas with you in the trunk in the event of an evacuation, just too risky.

One thing I have noticed in all of the storms in the last few years is that people wait too long. Too long to get gas, get water, get food, get shelter, get out. What does it hurt to have some extra food in the pantry and fill up a little more often? These are things you’re going to use anyway; it just takes a little more time and half of a thought.

Oh, a deck of cards an old paperback book, and a bible. Cards give you something to do, the book you can read, and strength can be had from God’s word.


Water Storage

Water is a key concern in an emergency situation. Without water you cannot drink, bathe, cook, or clean. Having potable water is of vital importance. There are several ways to obtain potable water.

Plan on at least a gallon a day for drinking and cooking. Extra water will be needed for bathing and cleaning. Remember, you can always wash your clothes in water that is not purified. This will make your water rations go further.

You should always have some way to purify water. Boiling, filters, and chemicals (usually iodine) can all be used. Household bleach (16 drops (1/4 teaspoon) per gallon) will do in a pinch. Do not use iodine tablets if you have an allergy to iodine.

An easier way to provide water is to store it. While you can go get 55 gallon barrels and store large amounts of water, that is not always practical. It is much easier to store water in smaller containers. During an emergency situation plan on a minimum of 1 gallon per person per day. This will allow enough for drinking, cooking, and bathing or cleaning if you are conservative.

Probably the easiest way to store water is to use gallon water or milk jugs. I really try to stay away from the milk jugs. It seems I can never get them clean and the water always has a faint taste of soured milk. Granted, if I was in an emergency, I don’t think it would bother me that much. I prefer to use water jugs. Drink the good water then refill the jug with tap water. If you are planning to store the water put a few drops of household bleach in it and store in a cool, dark place . This will keep bacterial growth down. With this method you can keep water potable for a year or more.

Now that you have a few jugs filled, find a corner in a closet or up on a shelf and start stocking. Every time you get another jug, fill it up and store it. If you drink a lot of bottled water or milk, you can have a couple of week’s worth of stored water in a short time.

If you drink from the smaller bottles you can prepare the water for storage the same way. The smaller bottles can be tucked into the trunk of the car, in your desk drawer, or in your backpack. If you store some in your car, only plan for about 6 months before rotating it out.

It is nice to have some drink mix for the water. It helps kill the bleach or iodine taste. I wouldn’t want to drink this any longer than I had to but it will get you through.

That's all I have folks. I hope it helps someone.

[Paladin]

Good thread.

It's too easy for an disaster kit to go bad. I think it's important to pack different items in the disaster kit in individual sealable bags for this and other reasons.

The sealable bags protect your stuff in case of leakage, protect your stuff from the weather, keep everything organized, and can serve as containers in an emergency.

[Venus Pax]

I think it's important to pack different items in the disaster kit in individual sealable bags for this and other reasons.

The sealable bags protect your stuff in case of leakage, protect your stuff from the weather, keep everything organized, and can serve as containers in an emergency.

Did this, and most of the things in sealable bags were still destroyed.
Lesson learned: Keep food and water seperate from other items.

[Target1911]

One more cheap item that doesnt take up much space but can make a HUGE difference if you have them. HAND WARMERS....You can get a pack of 6 small ones for $2 at your local sporting goods store.

[Odin]

Granted I don't live in an area subject to natural disasters that arrive with no notice, but does anyone else either? I have never felt the need for a "doomsday kit" because I figure I can assemble everything in one of those kits in about 10 minutes if needed. What sort of disaster would have you fleeing your home for an extended time with less than 10 minutes notice? I'm all for preparation, but I just don't see the need for this. I've got a firearm, plenty of cash and a credit card on me at all times, and my truck has a cell phone and always has enough gas to get out of the state if necessary. What would a bug-out kit do for me that I can't do already?

[troglodyte]

Granted I don't live in an area subject to natural disasters that arrive with no notice, but does anyone else either? I have never felt the need for a "doomsday kit" because I figure I can assemble everything in one of those kits in about 10 minutes if needed. What sort of disaster would have you fleeing your home for an extended time with less than 10 minutes notice? I'm all for preparation, but I just don't see the need for this. I've got a firearm, plenty of cash and a credit card on me at all times, and my truck has a cell phone and always has enough gas to get out of the state if necessary. What would a bug-out kit do for me that I can't do already?

You may not need one. That is for you to decide but consider the following.

Trucks can breakdown, run out of gas, or get stuck in traffic. Roads can quickly become impassible due to flooding or debris.

Cell phones don't always work and run out of battery.

Cash is good as long as there is something to buy. I remember the eerie feeling walking down the food aisles at Wal-mart even weeks after Rita and seeing empty shelves...and I live 600 miles from Houston. Credit cards and debit cards may not work in the vacinity of the disaster.

I remember seeing a report out of Florida Keys, IIRC, about people getting the mandatory evacuation notice and having just a short time to leave. Granted, if you are able to drive up the road a few miles and get a hotel you're fine but everyone else is going to be doing the same thing.

And your gun? I'm not sure what you intend to use it for. Certainly it can keep the BGs away but it's not worth much more than that in an emergency situation. Don't get me wrong, carry it for your protection.


What can a kit do for you?

First thing is it can "remember" for you. If I had to grab everything I needed in 10 minutes I'd be in a mess. A kit let's you think it through before you have to grab and run.

Second it gets you to thinking about how you will or can use what you're packing.

Third it gives you extra time to pack other belongings or shut down the house if you need to. Or even get a five minute jump on everyone else.

Fourth, and this kind of ties in with the above, it let's you organize.

A car kit enables you to be stranded for awhile in some form of comfort. The roads leading out of Rita's path got jammed. If you got caught in the traffic and got caught up in the storm you may be on your own for a while. I've driven home in near blizzard conditions in the panhandle. A car kit would get me though the night in more comfort and with more safety if I were to have gotten stuck or needed to pull off before a town.

A winter ice storm can shut down a town in a few hours. If you're caught at the office you have your car kit (and maybe an office kit)

There is a certain amount of redundancy built in. If I have to Bug-in, I can grab my car kit and suppliment my BOB and house kit. Or maybe even share with a neighbor.

If I am in my car I have at least my car kit and maybe my BOB.

If I'm afoot then I am pretty much carrying what I have but maybe I can suppliment it with items from the car kit.

None of these have to take up a lot of room or cost a lot so why not? Too me it's the same as carrying my CCW. I am likely to never need it. I will most likely be able to avoid or remove myself from the situation before I may need it. But if I need it, I will need it, and I will be glad, and maybe alive, to have had it.

[scootergeek]

Granted I don't live in an area subject to natural disasters that arrive with no notice, but does anyone else either? I have never felt the need for a "doomsday kit" because I figure I can assemble everything in one of those kits in about 10 minutes if needed. What sort of disaster would have you fleeing your home for an extended time with less than 10 minutes notice? I'm all for preparation, but I just don't see the need for this. I've got a firearm, plenty of cash and a credit card on me at all times, and my truck has a cell phone and always has enough gas to get out of the state if necessary. What would a bug-out kit do for me that I can't do already?

Sorry for the sour tone Odin but here I go...

1997 Galveston Texas, Tropical Storm Frances. If I remember correctly we were without power and water for 3 days on East end of island. Cars were underwater on Broadway in some sections. Wife got bit by snake which swam into the house and youngest daughter stepped onto a gafftop who washed up in front yard whaile we were wading out of area to higher ground. We too had tons of money in bank and lots of credit cards with us.

Now heres the reality of what happened.

Could not use the large amount of gas in car to get out of town..........Our car was under water.
Could not use the toilet any where the water system was down ..........City services are non existent, and even if we would have found a toilet to poop in there would have been no dry paper to wipe with.
Could not goto the store to buy a drink or food for wife and child........Power was out, no atm's worked, no stores were open cause no power to operate registers.
Wife had to use a broken glass piece she found on road to cut her leg for me to draw out venom........Ambulances could not get to us cause you guessed it we're underwater at the house.
Wife also had to use same glass piece to get out broken off barb from cat fish stuck in daughters foot........daughter cant walk to doctor for him to get it out cause he's underwater and closed.
My nice pretty 1911 did absolutely nothing good with all its shiny parts and high dollar ammo .........it got filled with sand and salt water.


That my friend is why you need a BOB pack or a problem arises bag...