The short answer is a big "NO." No justice can be served through injustice. Yes, justice may be served in some individual cases, but in a long run, justice via injustice hurts human race as a whole. Sooner or later, everyone would just take things into their own hands and start to impose their own version of "justice." It is a sure way leading to chaos.
It's true that some bad guys will slip through some legal crack, but to the society as a whole, it is not a bad thing.
What is bad is what we do as a nation. Internally, we at least try to protect liberty and rights etc; externally, we are the big bully. If you step outside of America, you will find very few people who like America. It is simply because we do things - horrible things that are only justified by our own greed rather than for the great human cause.
For the supporters of Ron Paul, the great American that I come to admire, have you ever read/heard what he said?
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congr ... 090805.htm
http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/
In reality, we are no more civilized than we were 1000 years ago.
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Re: Can justice be served through injustice? (long)
I agree with you on the principle that justice cannot be served through injustice. If extralegal means can be used to punish people we "know" are guilty, the same means can be used to punish the innocent.
I disagree with you that we have not made progress. Even 60 years ago, lynchings were common. Today, if anything like a lynching occurs, it is punished the same as any murder.
Going back 1,000 years, governments and churches routinely used torture and genocide, enslaved the conquered, and allowed mass rape of conquered women.
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I disagree with you that we have not made progress. Even 60 years ago, lynchings were common. Today, if anything like a lynching occurs, it is punished the same as any murder.
Going back 1,000 years, governments and churches routinely used torture and genocide, enslaved the conquered, and allowed mass rape of conquered women.
- Jim
Re: Can justice be served through injustice? (long)
I agreed. we did make a lot progress. Now we routinely apply freedom and democracy which is backed by waterboarding, laser guided missiles and JDAM. Totally different from torture and mass rape.
seamusTX wrote: I disagree with you that we have not made progress. Even 60 years ago, lynchings were common. Today, if anything like a lynching occurs, it is punished the same as any murder.
Going back 1,000 years, governments and churches routinely used torture and genocide, enslaved the conquered, and allowed mass rape of conquered women.
- Jim
Please help the wounded store owner who fought off 3 robbers. He doesn't have medical insurance.
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Re: Can justice be served through injustice? (long)
I'm not going to discuss foreign policy on this forum. It is off-topic.
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Re: Can justice be served through injustice? (long)
Yes it is.seamusTX wrote:I'm not going to discuss foreign policy on this forum. It is off-topic.
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Stupid, you really should give Armed Polite Society a try. Your comments would fit right in over there.Stupid wrote:I agreed. we did make a lot progress. Now we routinely apply freedom and democracy which is backed by waterboarding, laser guided missiles and JDAM. Totally different from torture and mass rape.
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anygunanywhere wrote:Stupid, you really should give Armed Polite Society a try. Your comments would fit right in over there.Stupid wrote:I agreed. we did make a lot progress. Now we routinely apply freedom and democracy which is backed by waterboarding, laser guided missiles and JDAM. Totally different from torture and mass rape.
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