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Austin Shooting, close to home.

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Two nights ago, there was a shooting here in Austin, about half a block from my daily coffee shop hangout, and in view of where I am sitting right now. It happened at 11:00pm, about an hour after I had left to go home.

Here is a local newspaper article on the shooting:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/n ... oting.html
Victim, accused shooter had turbulent relationship, affidavit says
William Jordan, 53, is accused of killing his ex-boyfriend in North Austin.


By Patrick George
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Monday, June 30, 2008

The man who police say was shot by his ex-boyfriend in North Austin on Friday night had a protective order against the man who is accused of killing him, according to an arrest affidavit.

In May, a protective order was issued against 53-year-old William Jordan, also known as Angel, to stay at least 200 feet from his ex-boyfriend, 45-year-old Walter Chapman Jr., the affidavit said. Chapman died of gunshot wounds at University Medical Center at Brackenridge just before midnight Friday.

Authorities arrested Jordan about 2 p.m. Saturday in Gillespie County, police said. He was in custody Sunday night at the Travis County Jail.

The affidavit describes Jordan and Chapman's relationship as turbulent. The two met last year and lived together but broke up in February. In April, Jordan was arrested and accused of damaging Chapman's truck with a pickax, breaking its windows and puncturing its tires, the affidavit said.

It also said Jordan told a friend he planned to kill Chapman, then himself.

Jordan met with the friend just before midnight Friday and told him he had "shot Walt," the affidavit said. Jordan told the friend he had been looking for Chapman before finding him at North Loop Boulevard, where the shooting took place. When Jordan left about midnight, the friend called 911, the affidavit said.

One witness told investigators she heard two men talking, but not arguing, at 100 West North Loop Boulevard, the affidavit said. The witness then heard gunshots and heard someone fall to the ground.

Jordan's bail was set at $1 million.


From what I can gather, the shooter was a recently-released criminal who had a protective order against him for his former boyfriend. The victim was shot on the sidewalk in front of his home. From the friends I talked to who witnessed the event, it seems like the weapon was a small caliber handgun, as they mistook the shots for firecrackers. I realize that this is not a particularly interesting story, but it really does hit home for me in a couple of ways.

First, had I been here, there would have been nothing I could have done to help this fellow. Though within sight distance, the event hapened about 4 houses down and across the street from the coffee shop, and the shooter would have been long gone before I or anyone else would have had a chance to intervene. This incident drives home the point that individuals, particularly those who have reasons to fear for their life from a tangible threat, need to be able to defend themselves. Even with our loved ones at a distance as close as the mailbox, we can't always respond in timely enough a manner to stop a tragedy like this one from occurring.

Second, this event reinforces the fact to me that protective orders do nothing to protect someone from a criminal who has been released and let loose on the street. I am reminded of a post by The Lawdog on this subject:

http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2008 ... rmour.html
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I'm fond of paper.

A single sheet of paper can hold ideas, hopes, dreams; it can carry a song, orders, love; it can recall history, bear witness when none are left and it can serve as the base of art for bairns as well as their great-grandsires.

Many folks name the invention of the printing press as a foundation stone of human civilization -- but what is the use of a printing press with no paper to work with?

For all of it's utility and history, though, there is one area in which paper is sorely lacking:

It makes lousy armour.

Oh, I'm sure there are fantastic suits of papier-mâché hauberks using fabled Oriental Death Bamboo paper and sacred Tibetan yak lacquer -- but let us cast our gaze upon a single sheet of 8 1/2 by 11 paper.

Let us further stipulate that it is of a good, heavy kind of paper -- quality stuff -- say, 32 lb paper. Pretty, is it not?

We shall hang this sheet of paper from something. A clothesline, maybe, or a door frame. Something that will hold the paper at the top and at the bottom, yet allow some room behind the paper.

Now, flick a hand at the paper and see how much force it takes to tear through it. A simple pass of the fingers, I'd wager. Nothing as vigorous as a baseball bat, or a fireplace poker, surely.

If you were to lay a similar sheet of paper -- flat, as it is meant to be read -- upon someone's cheek and then slap that cheek with all of your strength ... would it absorb the blow? Would an 8.5x11 inch sheet of paper cause the impact to hurt less?

How about a punch? Would a sheet of paper -- or two sheets, or three -- laid upon your stomach turn the trauma of a punch? A kick?

Does anyone think a sheet of paper will stop a kitchen knife, or a bullet?

No?

Let us change the exercise a bit. Take a new sheet of paper, then rummage around and find your very favourite pen. With this most wonderful of writing instruments, I want you to write two words upon the pristine white surface of this sheet of paper.

The first word shall be, "RESTRAINING", and just below that, write the word, "ORDER". Just those two words. If those two words are not to your liking, you may substitute the words, "PEACE" and "BOND", the former above the latter.

As you admire your penmanship, I urge you to contemplate how much those two words change the ability of that sheet of paper to stop slaps. To absorb punches. If this single sheet of paper was held in front of your stomach, would it stop a kick?

Not so much?

Take this sheet of paper and add columns of section signs (§) here and there, write "In The Name Of The State of Texas" to the top, scribble a judge's name somewhere near the bottom.

How about now? Has the paper now suddenly become magical? Will you now trust this sheet of paper to stop a baseball bat aimed for your face -- because it has writing upon it?

*sigh*

Paper makes rotten armour, no matter how many inked symbols it holds.

And when it comes down to you and a critter, in a deserted parking lot in the afternoon; or a busy office at brunch; or your living room at midnight, at bad-breath distances -- that's all your ex parte restraint order or your peace bond is ... or even your Protective Order -- it is merely a piece of paper.

Oh, I hear you now: "LawDog, if I have a valid Protective Order, and the critter violates it, he goes to jail!"

Yes. He does. Remember, however, that when he does that violating, you have to be able to contact the men with guns to come help you. And then they have to come to you from wherever they are at the time you call. Until they get there, if the only thing you've got is that piece of paper ...

Well, as we've seen, paper just doesn't make decent armour at all.

Gentle Readers, nothing says, "Protected" quite like a Protective Order in one paw backed up by a self-defence tool in your other and the mindset and willingness to use it behind your eyes.

Stay safe.

LawDog
It's just senseless that this happened.

Stay safe and be aware of your surroundings out there, everyone.
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Uhhh...is that a misprint...it said a man and his boyfriend. Has the whole world gone completely insane? I remember when the real story would have been "a man and his boyfriend".
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03Lightningrocks wrote: "a man and his boyfriend".
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03Lightningrocks wrote:Uhhh...is that a misprint...it said a man and his boyfriend. Has the whole world gone completely insane? I remember when the real story would have been "a man and his boyfriend".
Nope, not a misprint. You read it correctly.
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Thats besides the point...the point is that piece of paper OOOOH..the mestrangment order (which movie?) did nothing to protect the person from getting killed
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Quite frankly...a piece of plastic in the wallet will do nothing to protect you from a mentally disturbed individual either. :tiphat:
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It drives home the truth of LedJedi's signature line, not just in your home but everywhere.
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Bart wrote:It drives home the truth of LedJedi's signature line, not just in your home but everywhere.
The police cannot protect you in your home. If goblins break in upon you the police should be called - as soon as you get around to it - in order to write out reports and clean up the mess. But the goblins are your problem. - Jeff Cooper
Isn't that the truth... :thumbs2:
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From http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... =2&t=10341

"3. No racial or ethnic slurs. Descriptions of persons in actual events are fine, so long as it doesn’t constitute stereotyping."
"5. Posts with racist, anarchist, or antisocial comments or content are not allowed and links to sites with such content are not allowed. "

I suggest point 3 be updated to include homophobic slurs or remarks as that seems to be in line w/ the "antisocial" aspect of point #5. I might also suggesting updating point # 2 to not allowing personal attacks on victims involved in a discussion.
03Lightningrocks wrote:Uhhh...is that a misprint...it said a man and his boyfriend. Has the whole world gone completely insane? I remember when the real story would have been "a man and his boyfriend".
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atxgun wrote:From http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... =2&t=10341

"3. No racial or ethnic slurs. Descriptions of persons in actual events are fine, so long as it doesn’t constitute stereotyping."
"5. Posts with racist, anarchist, or antisocial comments or content are not allowed and links to sites with such content are not allowed. "

I suggest point 3 be updated to include homophobic slurs or remarks as that seems to be in line w/ the "antisocial" aspect of point #5. I might also suggesting updating point # 2 to not allowing personal attacks on victims involved in a discussion.
03Lightningrocks wrote:Uhhh...is that a misprint...it said a man and his boyfriend. Has the whole world gone completely insane? I remember when the real story would have been "a man and his boyfriend".

Homophobic?????????? LOL....no...not in the least. Maybe a little grossed out by the concept...but definitely not fearful of it. I actually feel like you just made a personal attack on me and my Christian beliefs.
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What's Christian about that?
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bdickens wrote:What's Christian about that?
If you want to debate it by PM. I would be happy to continue the conversation in that manner.
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I think the fact that they were homosexuals shouldn't even come into the picture. There was a guy who had someone he tried to keep away from himself shoot him. That's just more proof that there's not enough being done to protect people from psycho ex'es when there's a restraining order out!
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