HPD officer's gun, taser stolen in carjacking
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Big time unaware. I bet it never happens to him again. I was a cop for 12yrs and always had my gun on me or under my right leg while driving. I'm really surprised they didn't kill him unless they didn't see his uniform until they were down the road.
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One of the things I consciously do to avoid confrontations is to drive a "Grandpa Car" that no one will want to swipe. It's an old Grand Marquis and even when it was a new Grand Marquis, it was a grandpa car then. A Dodge Magnum is a pretty hot car and one that hijackers may be interested in.
But yea, he should have had his gun on him. However, the article didn't say that he wasn't armed. It just says that the car contained his duty kit. Even if he was armed, it's extremely difficult to draw a weapon when sitting in a driver's seat. Unless one uses a cross draw holster it's virtually impossible to do it quickly. I know I can't and especially since it has to be concealed under my shirt.
I will agree with the situational awareness issue and there's a whole bunch of things that can be done to be more aware and to leave escape avenues.
Then after if he was armed, perhaps he didn't feel it was appropriate to go blasting away at his car as it was speeding away. The Houston Cron headlines would then have read, "Racist Cop shoots African American suspects over New Sports Car. Women & Children Affected Most" and then we would have to put up with all the associated junk for the next 6 months. Anyone remember Joe Horn?
I'm glad the officer is safe. His gun will turn up somewhere and if a crime was committed with it, that crime would have been committed anyway if it was the officers gun or not.
Houston does have some bad areas and ever since Katrina, they have intensified.

But yea, he should have had his gun on him. However, the article didn't say that he wasn't armed. It just says that the car contained his duty kit. Even if he was armed, it's extremely difficult to draw a weapon when sitting in a driver's seat. Unless one uses a cross draw holster it's virtually impossible to do it quickly. I know I can't and especially since it has to be concealed under my shirt.
I will agree with the situational awareness issue and there's a whole bunch of things that can be done to be more aware and to leave escape avenues.
Then after if he was armed, perhaps he didn't feel it was appropriate to go blasting away at his car as it was speeding away. The Houston Cron headlines would then have read, "Racist Cop shoots African American suspects over New Sports Car. Women & Children Affected Most" and then we would have to put up with all the associated junk for the next 6 months. Anyone remember Joe Horn?
I'm glad the officer is safe. His gun will turn up somewhere and if a crime was committed with it, that crime would have been committed anyway if it was the officers gun or not.
Houston does have some bad areas and ever since Katrina, they have intensified.


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-- Darrell Royal, former UT football coach - "If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em."

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I don't see anything in the article that mentions the skin color of the cop or the thieves.TDDude wrote:The Houston Cron headlines would then have read, "Racist Cop shoots African American suspects over New Sports Car. Women & Children Affected Most" and then we would have to put up with all the associated junk for the next 6 months.
Anyway, by leaving the firearm and taser for the crooks, he had nothing to shoot them with.
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Guilty. Busted. You are correct. Gotta watch what I say. The article does not mention race by either party and I was making assumptions. BUT, knowing what I know about the Houston Chronicle, if race isn't mentioned concerning the Bad Guys in a story, they are almost always black. Plus, the citizens in the 59/Lyons area are primarily black. I was going with the odds. I didn't mean to offend and sorry if I did. I was just stating a fact about how the dudes at the Houston Chron think and how a story would have been reported.boomerang wrote:I don't see anything in the article that mentions the skin color of the cop or the thieves.TDDude wrote:The Houston Cron headlines would then have read, "Racist Cop shoots African American suspects over New Sports Car. Women & Children Affected Most" and then we would have to put up with all the associated junk for the next 6 months.
Anyway, by leaving the firearm and taser for the crooks, he had nothing to shoot them with.
Other than that, I was offering the scenario that the officer may have still been armed when he left his car. Most officers I know have a carry pistol and a duty pistol.
Ray F.
Luke 22:35-38 "Gear up boys, I gotta go and it's gonna get rough." JC
-- Darrell Royal, former UT football coach - "If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em."

Luke 22:35-38 "Gear up boys, I gotta go and it's gonna get rough." JC
-- Darrell Royal, former UT football coach - "If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em."

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Re: HPD officer's gun, taser stolen in carjacking
That must be quite a luxury. I found out from a good friend that the deputies for the Comal County Sheriff's Office are not permitted to carry off-duty. His dad has to get a Texas CHL in order to carry a handgun off-duty. I find that very odd, considering that our Sheriff is a former DPS sergeant.TDDude wrote:Other than that, I was offering the scenario that the officer may have still been armed when he left his car. Most officers I know have a carry pistol and a duty pistol.

But then again, I'm sure our Sheriff has his reasons.
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i thought they had to carry???pedalman wrote:That must be quite a luxury. I found out from a good friend that the deputies for the Comal County Sheriff's Office are not permitted to carry off-duty. His dad has to get a Texas CHL in order to carry a handgun off-duty. I find that very odd, considering that our Sheriff is a former DPS sergeant.TDDude wrote:Other than that, I was offering the scenario that the officer may have still been armed when he left his car. Most officers I know have a carry pistol and a duty pistol.
But then again, I'm sure our Sheriff has his reasons.

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It could be a county thing that our Sheriff grudgingly complies with. I don't know for sure, though.lunchbox wrote:i thought they had to carry???
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Might be your sherrif has a couple "Cable Guys" as deputies??pedalman wrote:It could be a county thing that our Sheriff grudgingly complies with. I don't know for sure, though.lunchbox wrote:i thought they had to carry???



I have a cousin that is on the New Braufels PD. I'll ask him about that next time I see him.



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-- Darrell Royal, former UT football coach - "If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em."

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Lord, I hope not.TDDude wrote:Might be your sherrif has a couple "Cable Guys" as deputies??![]()
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If the CCSO issues ID cards to their deputies, and the deputies are qualified, they can legally carry off duty even if the sheriff tells them not to.pedalman wrote:I found out from a good friend that the deputies for the Comal County Sheriff's Office are not permitted to carry off-duty. His dad has to get a Texas CHL in order to carry a handgun off-duty.
If the sheriff has instituted a policy that says deputies may not carry off duty, then I wouldn't think having a CHL would matter.
This is a matter of what's legal, versus what will get you fired. It's no different than a workplace posting a non-30.06 notice -- you can't be prosecuted, but you can sure be canned!