tech-9 & uzi

[lunchbox]

provided they are semi or i got them through a class III dealer and did the whole $200 transfer business is there anything to stop me from making my carry gun a tec-9 uzi or something of the sort

[SCone]

There doesn't seem to be anything in the CHL rules to keep you from doing this, but..... Why?

[lunchbox]

just wondering not that i own one or would buy one

but maybe a little MP5 or something

[NcongruNt]

provided they are semi or i got them through a class III dealer and did the whole $200 transfer business is there anything to stop me from making my carry gun a tec-9 uzi or something of the sort

Well, a Tec-9 is originally a semi-auto, so you'd be hard-pressed to find one that is legally full auto.

That aside, there are a few reasons that I'd say it would be a bad idea to carry one of these.

1) they're way too big to reasonably conceal, unless you're carrying in a briefcase or something similar.

2) you're likely to get an antsy LEO if you're asked about your weapon or disarmed during a stop. The Tec-9 screams "gang banger", as it was the weapon of choice for drug dealers and hoodlums for a long time. Beyond that, not all LEOs are going to be intimately familiar with the law, especially on a federal level. You MUST carry the paperwork (or a copy of it) with any class III weapon, so you'll have to keep that with you. Ultimately, carrying a gun of this nature is likely going to give you a lot of hassle if an LEO is made aware of what it is. Also, you can't carry a Class III weapon such as a SMG across state lines without paperwork from the ATF, and other states do have legal issues with carrying such a weapon.

3) I wouldn't be comfortable carrying an open-bolt weapon concealed. There's a margin of safety that just isn't there. First, there are drop safety issues with this design that make it much more prone to firing when dropped or struck. Secondly, carrying an open bolt gun means that you're more likely to collect debris in the workings of the gun, making a failure more likely at an inopportune time.

Now, legally speaking - in Texas there is nothing that I'm aware of in the law that would prohibit you from carrying a concealed class III weapon. IMO, it just not reasonable to do so under most circumstances.

[lunchbox]

im not planning on goign to other states as i love this one
and im thinking maybe an MP5 under a coat or in a bag would be desirable

[BigBlueDodge]

Are you planning on swapping your car for a tank as well?

Yes, that is sarcasm, but honestly, don't you think you are going a little overboard? Are you putting yourself in situations where a pistol won't cut it?

[lunchbox]

no i just like MP5s
they are so cute

[lunchbox]

but a tank is not a bad idea have you seen houston traffic

[SCone]

A friend of mine loves to walk thru Wally-World with his MP5 under his coat. He says he'd love to get a video of someone trying to pull something while he's carrying it.

"Now that's a knife"

[lunchbox]

any pics i would like to see how its done

[McKnife]

Check out this video of the Ronald Reagan assassination attempt...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoZeZprXnDg

At :18-:21 seconds, you see a man in a gray or brown suit with his Uzi. You see him again at 1:01 and 1:17. Pretty cool to me.

I guess he knows how to carry very well!

[lunchbox]

nice and you never would have notice that huge UZI

[lunchbox]

i know im showing my age but is the brady in this video the same one that made the brady campaign????

[srothstein]

Yes, this is what caused Sarah and James Brady to start the Brady Campaign. Well, it was at least the public motive. This is the James Brady that was shot and his wife Sarah is the one you always here about.

[Skiprr]

Sarah Brady was born on February 6, 1942, in Missouri and was raised in Alexandria, Virginia. She received her B.A. from the College of William and Mary in 1964. In 1973, she married James Scott Brady and they have a son, James Scott Brady, Jr. [Editorial comment: Sarah once purchased a firearm for her son, James Scott; this was well after the start of her anti-gun campaigning. Not only is it interesting she would want her son to have a firearm, but there were accusations of a Straw Purchase. You can Google it.]

From 1964 to 1968, Mrs. Brady was a public school teacher in Virginia. For the next ten years, she worked actively in various capacities within the Republican Party. She served as Assistant to the Campaign Director at the National Republican Congressional Committee from 1968 to 1970. In 1970, Sarah joined the staff of U.S. Representative Mike McKevitt (R-CO) as an Administrative Aide. She held the same position in Congressman Joseph J. Maraziti's office (R-NJ) from 1972-1974. During the next four years, Mrs. Brady was Director of Administration and Coordinator of Field Services for the Republican National Committee.

Sarah has been active in the gun control movement since the mid-1980s, becoming Chair of Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI) in 1989. Two years later, she became Chair of the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, HCI's sister organization, a 501(c)(3) organization working to reduce gun violence through education, research, and legal advocacy. On November 30, 1993, Sarah watched President Clinton sign into law the "Brady Bill". The bill, named for her husband, Jim, required a five-day waiting period and background check on all handgun purchases through licensed dealers. In 1996, Sarah continued to lead the gun control movement by addressing the National Democratic Convention in Chicago, Illinois.

In December 2000, the Boards of Trustees for Handgun Control and the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence voted to honor Jim and Sarah Brady's hard work and commitment to gun control by renaming the two organizations the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. [Editorial comment: This, of course, had nothing to do with the fact the name "Handgun Control" wasn't selling well enough to the American people. Changing the name from "Handgun Control" to the "Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence" certainly couldn't have been only a marketing move, could it?]

Sarah's past activities include Chairing the Building Committee for the Republican National Committee Annex, serving as a delegate to five Virginia Republican State Conventions, and serving as an Honorary Regent of the National Federation of Republican Women. She also sat on the Board of the Easter Seals Society and the Board of Alumni of the College of William and Mary. Mrs. Brady also serves as the Honorary Chairperson of the National Brain Injury Foundation.

Essentially, then, Mrs. Brady hasn't held a real job since the '70s. And other than her four-year stint as a teacher, most of her jobs have been--she should be embarrassed to admit this, but apparently is not--volunteer or compensated work for the Republican Party.

But that's okay. Sarah has leveraged the shooting of her husband and the abandonment of her Republican principles into a lucrative income--a very lucrative income--from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

Unlike the NRA, which is funded by over four million individual memberships, the Brady Campaign receives most of its money from large, ultra-liberal organizations and individual investors like the Joyce Foundation and George Soros.

But that's okay. Sarah and the other receivers of Brady stipends need the money. They have to get the Mercedes serviced, pay the housekeepers, fund the next soiree...oh, and pay the security staff...who must carry those repulsive guns.

But that's okay. Certain of the proletariat must be employed to protect society's elite, n'cest pas?