New Tactics for Terrorists?

[Rugrash]

I lived in suburban MD during the whole sniper ordeal. It is true IMHO that anyone interested in crippling our economy and truly terrorizing us could follow these tactics in certain areas of our country. I did witness people hiding behind their vehicles and others would constantly move around while pumping gas (like a goofy little dance). There's no doubt that it had a huge affect on the area as anytime there was a killing the federal, state and local authorities would shut down the highways causing massive gridlock, so they could search for the perps. It's really a great plan b/c it doesn't cost much money and relatively few people could cause a tremendous amount of psychological trauma on entire metro areas. During all of this I pretty much accepted that I was more likely to get struck by lightening or die on my commute to work on I-270 than get "sniped".

[tarkus]

Their goal is to affect politics and popular opinion. They're willing to kill innocent people to get the effect they want but mass murder Is a means to an end. Look how the actions of just a few was able to cause serious damage to the US economy and get the government to pass the unpatriotic act and cause the rebirth to certain political factions. Like many serial killers, bin Laden may be crazy but he's not stupid.

[casingpoint]

Many of these extremist insurgents may well have already entered, and will enter, the United States via the Mexican border. They are augmented here by our own home grown terrorist and a growing population of Muslims bound by their own stone age religious dogma to kill the infidels. It's not a matter of who's right and who's wrong. It's about who's going to win this global battle.


When you come to a fork in the road, take it-Yogi Berra

[tbranch]

I've started carrying a spare magazine for my LCP and a larger S&W 9 with 30 rounds in the car. When I was in the service, I made the decision that if I was going to die for my country, I was not going alone and I was going to take as many of them with me as I could.

Of course, it was much better to have them die for their country (cause) when possible.

Tom

[casingpoint]

This stellar article by Andrew Sullivan published in the New York Times one month after 911 defines what America is up against.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A9679C8B63

[bdickens]

The NYT editorial staff needs o go back and reread their own article; they seem to have forgotten!

[Commander]

My fear for years has been that a terrorist group would invade and take over a school and kill a large number of children. That would have a devistating effect on the entire country.

[boomerang]

My fear for years has been that a terrorist group would invade and take over a school and kill a large number of children. That would have a devistating effect on the entire country.

Except in Utah, there is not much to stop something like the Beslan school massacre from happening here.

[Carry Big Stick]

I'm really quite surprised that they haven't already started using these tactics. Comes as a shock to me that we haven't seen any roadside IEDs used on us here in the homeland. That would cause mass panic in the population if all of a sudden they started bombing our highways and overpasses. It will deal a serious blow to the area as it would take months before any repairs could be done. They have no problem using an IED on our soldiers over in the sandbox. I'm sure when they see us start pulling our troops out they will be more than happy to bring the fight back to our doorsteps. As I am sure we have plenty of them in our country already just waiting for their signals.

[KinnyLee]

Get your CHL, practice, carry your gun (a real gun) everywhere, practice, get your loved ones to do likewise, oh yeah, practice! Make it realistic practice; i.e. shoot on the move, shoot at moving targets, shoot at multiple assailants.

How about some force on forcetraining at TexasCHLForum day 2009?

[Excaliber]

I'm really quite surprised that they haven't already started using these tactics. Comes as a shock to me that we haven't seen any roadside IEDs used on us here in the homeland. That would cause mass panic in the population if all of a sudden they started bombing our highways and overpasses. It will deal a serious blow to the area as it would take months before any repairs could be done. They have no problem using an IED on our soldiers over in the sandbox. I'm sure when they see us start pulling our troops out they will be more than happy to bring the fight back to our doorsteps. As I am sure we have plenty of them in our country already just waiting for their signals.

There are lots of ways to terrify people, but many of them are more difficult than they might appear. High impact bombings are considerably more difficult to carry out in places that aren't awash in artillery shells and military grade explosive materials like Iraq.

[Carry Big Stick]

I'm really quite surprised that they haven't already started using these tactics. Comes as a shock to me that we haven't seen any roadside IEDs used on us here in the homeland. That would cause mass panic in the population if all of a sudden they started bombing our highways and overpasses. It will deal a serious blow to the area as it would take months before any repairs could be done. They have no problem using an IED on our soldiers over in the sandbox. I'm sure when they see us start pulling our troops out they will be more than happy to bring the fight back to our doorsteps. As I am sure we have plenty of them in our country already just waiting for their signals.

There are lots of ways to terrify people, but many of them are more difficult than they might appear. High impact bombings are considerably more difficult to carry out in places that aren't awash in artillery shells and military grade explosive materials like Iraq.

Very true I guess we don't quite have stock piles of their favorite choice explosives laying around. Always could consider the use of alternative explosives that they could use. Ammonia nitrate worked in the 95' OKC bombing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

[Keith B]

Very true I guess we don't quite have stock piles of their favorite choice explosives laying around. Always could consider the use of alternative explosives that they could use. Ammonia nitrate worked in the 95' OKC bombing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Purchases of any type of material that can be made into IED's are tracked and logged when you purchase them. Ammonium Nitrate fertilizers are just one of them you have to sign for when you buy it. Large purchase amounts are tracked by the feds and you will probably receive a knock on your door even if you are a farmer and exceed normal volumes in a single purchase or over a short time period.

[anygunanywhere]

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 5542&hilit

Terrorists in schools.

Anygunanywhere

[maximus2161]

This is a scary thing. For example my son goes to a private school. Obviously it is a gun free zone. The campus doors are locked causing parents/visitors to have a badge that allows entry or be buzzed in by a secretary sitting in a office somewhere. Gaining entry to this facility is easy however and there is no security presence at all. To me its a prime target as are most of our schools wether public or private.

But what do we do. Keep our kids out of school? Home school them out of fear? No

I think about this EVERY SINGLE DAY. We have got to be able to continue to have the ability to protect ourselves and our loved ones. Even allowing for total unrestrictive carry wont stop a determined terrorist, but we would at least have a better chance to protect our loved ones. Because when the other shoe drops....and it will.....it may be one citizen who prevents some lunatic from brutally killing a bunch of innocent children and people. The worst part is it will probably take something horrible for things to change. And that is so sad.

I believe things are going to get worse before things get better. I also believe the most horrible tragedies are yet to come. I hope I am totally wrong. We need to be able to protect ourselves and our families. Politicians and people who seek to take that ability away from us are doing all of us an grave injustice. So I hope things will happen to allow laws not to be so restrictive to us. Because we know the bad guys could care less about laws.