The Supergun that kills from a mile -

[TxD]

Wonder how well that suppressor works.

Story here:http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/ ... 68x528.jpg
Pictured: The supergun that kills from a mile - and the camouflaged crackshots using it against the Taliban
By Christopher Leake
Last updated at 1:04 AM on 16th February 2009

British Army snipers call it 'the Silent Assassin' and it is the weapon the Taliban fear the most.
It is the British-made L115A3 Long Range Rifle which, in recent weeks, has killed scores of enemy fighters in Afghanistan.
In a new initiative on the front line, the Army is using sniper platoons to target the Taliban and 'The Long', as the snipers call it, can take out insurgents from a mile away.

Made to measure: Army sniper Yuppie in his home-made camouflage suit
Many of the elite marksmen who use the rifle make their own extraordinary suits of camouflage to stay hidden from the Taliban.
Some have been known to go 'under cover' for two days while they pick off the enemy.
Last week Army snipers were training with the rifle and full camouflage on the snow-covered ranges of the Support Weapons School at the Land Warfare Centre at Warminster, Wiltshire.
Enlarge Deadly: The rifle is known as 'The Long' and can take out insurgents from a mile away
One of them, known as Yuppie, said: 'You could call it made-to-measure camouflage.
'This one is green string tied into sheets, then covered in straw with straps attached so it fits tight. It took three months and a lot of patience to make.'
His comrade Dean, who like Yuppie is a veteran of Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia and Northern Ireland, said: 'I wouldn't say us snipers are an elite, but we think we're a cut above the rest.'
The L115A3 Long Range Sniper Rifle - based on a weapon used by the British Olympic shooting team - weighs 15lbs, fires 8.59mm rounds and has a range of 1,100-1,500 yards.

[Doug.38PR]

A friend of mine up in Fort Worth was telling me about an incident that recently happened up there where a woman was getting into her car and was suddenly hit in the arm by a bullet. Nobody found a shooter nearby.

Turns out...somebody on their own land a couple of miles away had fired one of these 50 caliber guns and it overshot their target and got all the way to that woman.....of course I suppose the same thing could happen to a .30-06

http://cbs11tv.com/local/Jill.King.TMS.2.855534.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

here's the story. Note the final line

Moss is offering a $3,000 reward for any information leading to an arrest. He also plans on launching a Web site to find the shooter and for others to join him in an effort to ban the sale of .50 caliber weapons to consumers.

Wish he had been hit...right in the head I'm sorry the man's wife was hurt, but good grief like I said, accidents happen, you want to minimize them...but the same thing could have happen with a 30.06 or even a .357 magnum!


http://cbs11tv.com/local/Jill.King.TMS.2.857530.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[KaiserB]

A friend of mine up in Fort Worth was telling me about an incident that recently happened up there where a woman was getting into her car and was suddenly hit in the arm by a bullet. Nobody found a shooter nearby.

Turns out...somebody on their own land a couple of miles away had fired one of these 50 caliber guns and it overshot their target and got all the way to that woman.....of course I suppose the same thing could happen to a .30-06

http://cbs11tv.com/local/Jill.King.TMS.2.855534.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

here's the story. Note the final line

Moss is offering a $3,000 reward for any information leading to an arrest. He also plans on launching a Web site to find the shooter and for others to join him in an effort to ban the sale of .50 caliber weapons to consumers.

Wish he had been hit...right in the head Like I said, accidents happen, you want to minimize them...but the same thing could have happen with a 30.06 or even a .357 magnum!

How pleasant... wishing for a fatality. When this happened many of us from this forum reached out to Mr. Moss to help. He had a lot of anger and his first reaction was ban all 50 cals. He has since calmed down a bit as the case has had some resolution and time has passed. Mr. Moss was quite ticked that his wife was wounded. I can only imagine the outrage and the impact had either of them been killed by the errant bullet.

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... Motor+Moss" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Doug.38PR]

A friend of mine up in Fort Worth was telling me about an incident that recently happened up there where a woman was getting into her car and was suddenly hit in the arm by a bullet. Nobody found a shooter nearby.

Turns out...somebody on their own land a couple of miles away had fired one of these 50 caliber guns and it overshot their target and got all the way to that woman.....of course I suppose the same thing could happen to a .30-06

http://cbs11tv.com/local/Jill.King.TMS.2.855534.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

here's the story. Note the final line

Moss is offering a $3,000 reward for any information leading to an arrest. He also plans on launching a Web site to find the shooter and for others to join him in an effort to ban the sale of .50 caliber weapons to consumers.

Wish he had been hit...right in the head Like I said, accidents happen, you want to minimize them...but the same thing could have happen with a 30.06 or even a .357 magnum!

How pleasant... wishing for a fatality. When this happened many of us from this forum reached out to Mr. Moss to help. He had a lot of anger and his first reaction was ban all 50 cals. He has since calmed down a bit as the case has had some resolution and time has passed. Mr. Moss was quite ticked that his wife was wounded. I can only imagine the outrage and the impact had either of them been killed by the errant bullet.

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... Motor+Moss" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Glad to hear he's come to his senses and calmed down. Glad that fellow came forward and apologized. Anybody would be mad that their wife or child had been hit...but real men need to not act like a bunch of Carolyn McCarthys and get all self-righteous and go on asinine crusades. Accept that accidents happen, try to not let them happen again, Praise God that nobody was killed and move on with life.....then go out and buy your own 50 caliber

http://www.50caldanger.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BTW, apparently his effeminant self hasn't calmed down enough as his website is still up and running

[TxD]

...fires 8.59mm rounds...

Are they referring to the .338 Lapua here?

I think that is correct.

I had one in a Sako action and had a hard time keeping the scope rings from moving on the receiver. When we got that figured out it could really ring the gong at 300yds.

Without a muzzle brake, it was a handfull............shoulderfull.

[Skiprr]

...fires 8.59mm rounds...

Are they referring to the .338 Lapua here?

Bingo! A winner!

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/suppor ... /1459.aspx

The L115A3 is based on the Accuracy International (a British company) AWM (Artic Warfare Magnum) rifle. The .338 Lapua was developed in cooperation between Accuracy International's founder, Malcolm Cooper (a two-time Olympic gold medalist, '84 and '88, for Britain in the 3-position 50-meter rifle), and the Finnish company Lapua (ergo the "arctic warfare" connection).

Now I gotta go get work to work on my hand-made ghillie suit. Goodness. From what "Yuppie" said in the article, it may take me until the recession is over to finish it. Then maybe I can afford another rifle...

[WarHawk-AVG]

A friend of mine up in Fort Worth was telling me about an incident that recently happened up there where a woman was getting into her car and was suddenly hit in the arm by a bullet. Nobody found a shooter nearby.

Turns out...somebody on their own land a couple of miles away had fired one of these 50 caliber guns and it overshot their target and got all the way to that woman.....of course I suppose the same thing could happen to a .30-06

http://cbs11tv.com/local/Jill.King.TMS.2.855534.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

here's the story. Note the final line

Moss is offering a $3,000 reward for any information leading to an arrest. He also plans on launching a Web site to find the shooter and for others to join him in an effort to ban the sale of .50 caliber weapons to consumers.

Wish he had been hit...right in the head Like I said, accidents happen, you want to minimize them...but the same thing could have happen with a 30.06 or even a .357 magnum!

How pleasant... wishing for a fatality. When this happened many of us from this forum reached out to Mr. Moss to help. He had a lot of anger and his first reaction was ban all 50 cals. He has since calmed down a bit as the case has had some resolution and time has passed. Mr. Moss was quite ticked that his wife was wounded. I can only imagine the outrage and the impact had either of them been killed by the errant bullet.

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... Motor+Moss" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Glad to hear he's come to his senses and calmed down. Glad that fellow came forward and apologized. Anybody would be mad that their wife or child had been hit...but real men need to not act like a bunch of Carolyn McCarthys and get all self-righteous and go on asinine crusades. Accept that accidents happen, try to not let them happen again, Praise God that nobody was killed and move on with life.....then go out and buy your own 50 caliber

http://www.50caldanger.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BTW, apparently his effeminant self hasn't calmed down enough as his website is still up and running

I wrote to this guy too..you TOO would be VERY upset about the incident as well!!!
Put yourself in his shoes and then imagine the rage/frustration/anger he felt seeing his wife almost taken out by someones ignorance and stupidity!

This is what we DON'T need perpetuated..the hate for this guy needs to stop..he needs more support now than ever..on the same side of the token however we must remain vigilant against true anti-gunners that do not have a clue about firearms but choose to use situations JUST LIKE THIS ONE to further their agenda!

[Doug.38PR]

^
Yes I would be ticked off and upset if somebody shot my wife, child, girlfriend, mother etc. I would want to find out whoever was responsible. I would probably be inclinded to think it was deliberate and want the guys head initally.

I would NOT go on some hysterical emotional effeminate hissy fit denouncing 50 caliber guns and demanding they be banned that they only belong in the military. Then setting up websites and creating a public stir to get these weapons banned. Especially 4 months after the fact when it has been well established that my wife was going to pull through okay.

It's not just this guy, it's this idiotic kind of thinking that instinctively blames inanimate objects (like guns) instead of people responsible. It's an effeminate matriarchal nurturing mentality. It's why we have such a developing nanny state today.

I can be sympathetic for a man who nearly had his wife killed. I can even be understanding for somebody being upset and jumping to angry conclusions initally. But this motherly attitude is what is killing us as a people and any man who would react this way ought to be ashamed to call himself a man.

[Skiprr]

Just noting that the .50 caliber shooting of Jill King has its own topic way back over 100 days ago here: http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 83&t=19948.

Strugglin' to figure out out how TxD's post about the new Brit sniper version of the .338 Lapua got overwhelmed by the King/.50 issue.

[asleepatthereel]

Wish he had been hit...right in the head I'm sorry the man's wife was hurt, but good grief like I said, accidents happen, you want to minimize them...but the same thing could have happen with a 30.06 or even a .357 magnum!


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No need to go that far is there? Heck I wouldnt wish that on the worst anti gunner. I can understand this guys emotional response, though I wouldnt go as far as actively campaigning to ban .50s or any other gun for that matter. A better response would be to support the effort to find out how this happened, and prevent it from happening again. I could get behind something like that, especially if the shooter was negligent in his/her safety practices.

[Skiprr]

Nobody reads anything but the header before replying, do they.

Sorry, TxD. This used to be your Topic.

[asleepatthereel]

You are right Skiprr. I had meant to say that I wanted a .50 but could never afford one, but I can get the ghillie suit.

And I wouldnt think the supressor could tame the beast. Wouldnt it be better served with a muzzle brake?
My appologies to TxD.

[Liberty]

You are right Skiprr. I had meant to say that I wanted a .50 but could never afford one, but I can get the ghillie suit.

And I wouldnt think the supressor could tame the beast. Wouldnt it be better served with a muzzle brake?
My appologies to TxD.

Do you know what they call a visible sniper?




They call him a dead war hero. The surpressor cuts down on the flash. muzzle brakes tend to enhance a flash.

[asleepatthereel]

Yeah, I didnt think of that. I wonder what it would take to incorporate the best of the two devices. Looking at the top of the suppressor, are those square areas maybe some kind of valves to vent the gasses? It certainly is an interesting rifle. Gotta admire those guys. I couldnt imagine laying in the same spot motionless in the cold snow waiting for targets to present themselves. I might be able to do it in a deer stand with a lesser rifle.