Military discharge problems?

[Street2Peschel]

19 years ago I was discharged from the military do to "physical/mental conditions - personality disorders." Basically, I "not so gently requested" a discharge because they would not send me to OCS as promised after two years of service. They were letting people out early at the time and I was discharged. However, that distinction is not made on my DD214 as they gave me an honorable discharge under seperation code JFX. I have never had (or needed) any pysciatric help...I just wanted them to live up to their end of the agreement.

My question is: Should I claim my military status and get the $70 discount or will it tie up my application due to the seperation I was given, "physical/mental conditions - personality disorders?"

[AEA]

Personally, I would forget about the 70.00 discount and just hope that there is no other record of that same type anywhere in your history.

And, in a separate action I would contact the Bureau of Personnel for your branch and do whatever it takes to get that changed to a standard "Honorable Discharge". I think it would be worthwhile, even if you have to get a Lawyer involved and pay some money........

Should have been done 19 years ago!

[Street2Peschel]

I received an honorable discharge.

[AEA]

ummm......OK......

So, where EXACTLY does it say "physical/mental conditions - personality disorders"?

Anywhere on your DD-214? If so, that needs to be corrected (removed).

[Commander Cody]

Under separation code JFX. If that is not fixed you may be ineligible for a CHL.

[aardwolf]

Codes like JMG, JMM, JPB, JPC and JPD might disqualify you for addiction but I'm not sure about JFX. Behavioral disorders are not necessarily disqualifications.

(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(7), a person is incapable of
exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage
of a handgun if the person:
(1) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician as suffering from
a psychiatric disorder or condition that causes or is likely to cause
substantial impairment in judgment, mood, perception, impulse
control, or intellectual ability;
(2) suffers from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by
Subdivision (1) that:
(A) is in remission but is reasonably likely to redevelop at a
future time; or
(B) requires continuous medical treatment to avoid redevelopment;
(3) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician or declared by a
court to be incompetent to manage the person's own affairs; or
(4) has entered in a criminal proceeding a plea of not guilty by
reason of insanity.

(e) The following constitutes evidence that a person has a psychiatric
disorder or condition described by Subsection (d)(1):
(1) involuntary psychiatric hospitalization in the preceding
five-year period;
(2) psychiatric hospitalization in the preceding two-year period;
(3) inpatient or residential substance abuse treatment in the
preceding five-year period;
(4) diagnosis in the preceding five-year period by a licensed
physician that the person is dependent on alcohol, a controlled
substance, or a similar substance; or
(5) diagnosis at any time by a licensed physician that the person
suffers or has suffered from a psychiatric disorder or condition
consisting of or relating to:
(A) schizophrenia or delusional disorder;
(B) bipolar disorder;
(C) chronic dementia, whether caused by illness, brain defect,
or brain injury;
(D) dissociative identity disorder;
(E) intermittent explosive disorder; or
(F) antisocial personality disorder.

[Street2Peschel]

I think I will just pay the $140 rather than deal with all the hassle. The sad thing is that I am an upstanding citizen, I have never had ANY legal or medical (mental) problems and I am a long time member of the State Bar of Texas. Of course, none of that will be taken into consideration.

[aardwolf]

I am a long time member of the State Bar of Texas. Of course, none of that will be taken into consideration.

I think that may be a disqualifying condition.

[Street2Peschel]

Sometimes I think that myself!

Ironically, education was my "issue" with the military. I was told that I would be sent OCS to finish my last year of college and then to law school. Unfortunately, I learned the hard way that if it ain't in writing, it ain't worth the breath they used to say it. I almost wish I had finished my last two years and skipped law school!

[Liberty]

An honorable discharge is an honorable discharge, You are eligible for the discount.

[Purplehood]

An honorable discharge is an honorable discharge, You are eligible for the discount.

I think that code may disqualify him. I would ask the Board of Army/Navy Records to review and change it.

[jimlongley]

Sometimes I think that myself!

Ironically, education was my "issue" with the military. I was told that I would be sent OCS to finish my last year of college and then to law school. Unfortunately, I learned the hard way that if it ain't in writing, it ain't worth the breath they used to say it. I almost wish I had finished my last two years and skipped law school!

I had a similar experience, offered SeaBees and ordered to Gunner's Mate "A" School when 90% of all graduates were going straight to 'Nam.

Interestingly enough I was offered OCS later, a firm written offer, but predicated on a 6 year extension of enlistment. I turned them down.

Looked all over my 214 and can't find a separation code, just RE1, which is a recommendation to re-enlist. Have 214s changed that much over the years? When I was in "Honorable" was Honorable with no conditions attached and "General under honorable conditions" was the one with conditions attached.

I also never got a couple of promised decorations, including a "Good Conduct" medal, but they haven't cost me anything in the long run, and I knew they wouldn't as a career telephone man, so I didn't and don't much care.

[Purplehood]

Sometimes I think that myself!

Ironically, education was my "issue" with the military. I was told that I would be sent OCS to finish my last year of college and then to law school. Unfortunately, I learned the hard way that if it ain't in writing, it ain't worth the breath they used to say it. I almost wish I had finished my last two years and skipped law school!

I had a similar experience, offered SeaBees and ordered to Gunner's Mate "A" School when 90% of all graduates were going straight to 'Nam.

Interestingly enough I was offered OCS later, a firm written offer, but predicated on a 6 year extension of enlistment. I turned them down.

Looked all over my 214 and can't find a separation code, just RE1, which is a recommendation to re-enlist. Have 214s changed that much over the years? When I was in "Honorable" was Honorable with no conditions attached and "General under honorable conditions" was the one with conditions attached.

I also never got a couple of promised decorations, including a "Good Conduct" medal, but they haven't cost me anything in the long run, and I knew they wouldn't as a career telephone man, so I didn't and don't much care.

They don't have to have a code, but some do in special circumstances.