suspensions/revocations

[mec]

Looking over the 2008 statistics, I noticed that, while the percentages are very low, the number of these actions is significant. At one time, I asked one of the DPS attorneys what was the primary cause for adverse actions. At that time, DWI was pretty far out in front. Does anybody here know the current leading reasons for suspension/revocation?

[seamusTX]

I have never seen statistics on reasons for suspension or revocation.

If you look at the years for which conviction statistics are available, it's mostly domestic violence and sexual assault of a child (which applies to anyone younger than 18). There are very few weapons offenses. That site does not list DWI or drug offenses.

One thing worth noting is the number of deadly conduct charges, 15 in the year 2007. One of the elements of deadly conduct is pointing a firearm at a person without justification. That is a felony.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rt2007.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A license can also be suspended if the licensee moves and does not change his address. I'll bet that's pretty common. People just forget or procrastinate.

- Jim

[mec]

those are significant numbers but whatever is causing the bulk of adverse actions isn't tracked.

[seamusTX]

DPS must know. Maybe you could do an open records request.

- Jim

[mec]

I should have asked the lawyer at the retraining session but they were trying to move things along with a minimum of questions and I didnt think about it. One attorney a couple of sessions ago did mention that there were some incidences of people driving down the highway and showing their guns as a statement of disapproval to other motorists. with all the cellphones out there, that would be a pretty high-profile activity.

[chamberc]

I should have asked the lawyer at the retraining session but they were trying to move things along with a minimum of questions and I didnt think about it. One attorney a couple of sessions ago did mention that there were some incidences of people driving down the highway and showing their guns as a statement of disapproval to other motorists. with all the cellphones out there, that would be a pretty high-profile activity.

If anything, carrying makes me far less likely to get involved in "road rage" incidents. You think about those casual situations, that aren't life threatening and you realize, "I'm armed, they're probably not, and why escalate a non-life-threatening situation."

[seamusTX]

Flashing at someone should at least get a failure to conceal charge.

If you look at the 2007 statistics, no one was convicted of any PC 30.06, 46.03, or 46.035 offense. There were 29 convictions for UCW.

Legally, the only way a CHL holder can be guilty of UCW is to carry without a license. I suspect that these are plea bargains from some other offense.

- Jim

[mec]

there's a whole world of possiblities with plea bargains. apparently the current thing with dwi is to plead out to blocking a public road-whatever that is. It'll still get you a disabling conviction though. A fair number of people turn in their carry or instructors licenses rather than go through the hoops. One licensee here was offered a deal on his terrioristic threat charges. they dropped them in return for his turning in his chl. I later heard that he immediately got an out of state license that is honored here but don't know if thats true or not.
I notice that no chls got covicted of deadly conduct/discharge of firearm. Likely the few who might have been, pled down to sub section (a)