YabuUS wrote:Polishing the feed ramp in your gun can go along way toward causing jams
Fixed it for you MoJo
Seriously, be very careful with a Dremel - if you're just gently polishing, that's fine, but I've seen the results of folks getting carried away and voila - one ruined frame or barrel.
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YabuUS wrote:Polishing the feed ramp in your gun can go along way toward causing jams
Fixed it for you MoJo
Seriously, be very careful with a Dremel - if you're just gently polishing, that's fine, but I've seen the results of folks getting carried away and voila - one ruined frame or barrel.
MoJo
The most dangerous thing to a gun is a gun grabber the next is an amateur gunsmith with a Dremel tool.
Point taken. None of my semi-autos have ever had a jamming problem. I gave the ramp a "light buff" just as preventive maintenance. But I agree you can go too far and do more harm than good. Moderation in all things is the key.
Purplehood wrote:Okay, I have googled it and can't find a clear definition. Can anyone point me at an explanation of what a "feed-ramp" is?
Maybe the military refers to it by another name.
I was kind of wondering about that myself.
More on topic I am wondering if polishing the feed ramp really helps that much. If the ramp already looks smooth as silk, is there a need for doing this anyway? I have been tempted to try it but was a little worried about taking too much metal off and ruining my guns. Does it make a big difference if you have a gun that seems to fail to feed more than it should?
More on topic I am wondering if polishing the feed ramp really helps that much. If the ramp already looks smooth as silk, is there a need for doing this anyway? I have been tempted to try it but was a little worried about taking too much metal off and ruining my guns. Does it make a big difference if you have a gun that seems to fail to feed more than it should?
I'm certainly not a gunsmith and anything I say is based purely on my own experience and what I've read. If the feed ramp in your gun is already "smooth as silk" and your gun is working fine then I'd say there is no need to do much to it. Just keep the ramp clean by rubbing it down with a soft cloth. You'd probably do that anyway when cleaning the gun. The whole idea of polishing the ramp is just to give the nose of the cartridge a slick surface to ride up on as the round is chambered. If you gun is failing to feed on a regular basis there could be other reasons for that. Polishing the feed ramp is just one possible problem to eliminate. But like others have said on this thread, don't over do it. If using a Dremel tool seems a bit too aggressive, then I would suggest just using a cloth and doing it by hand. I think is most good quality pistols today the feed ramp is pretty smooth when you get it.
More on topic I am wondering if polishing the feed ramp really helps that much. If the ramp already looks smooth as silk, is there a need for doing this anyway? I have been tempted to try it but was a little worried about taking too much metal off and ruining my guns. Does it make a big difference if you have a gun that seems to fail to feed more than it should?
I'm certainly not a gunsmith and anything I say is based purely on my own experience and what I've read. If the feed ramp in your gun is already "smooth as silk" and your gun is working fine then I'd say there is no need to do much to it. Just keep the ramp clean by rubbing it down with a soft cloth. You'd probably do that anyway when cleaning the gun. The whole idea of polishing the ramp is just to give the nose of the cartridge a slick surface to ride up on as the round is chambered. If you gun is failing to feed on a regular basis there could be other reasons for that. Polishing the feed ramp is just one possible problem to eliminate. But like others have said on this thread, don't over do it. If using a Dremel tool seems a bit too aggressive, then I would suggest just using a cloth and doing it by hand. I think is most good quality pistols today the feed ramp is pretty smooth when you get it.
Some quality guns seem to benefit from a little polishing. 1911s seem to benefit from a little polishing right out of the box, Its probably not neccesarry for most plastic guns, or modern designs like a M9 or Glock. Kimbers have been made actually usable with a bit of fluff and buff.
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Liberty wrote: Kimbers have been made actually usable with a bit of fluff and buff.
"And the Kimber fans replied......"
LOL...yeah...what's with taking at shot at Kimber? By coincidence my Kimber Ultra Carry is the reason I asked. It seems to be improving but for a while there I could hardly get through three magazines of Federal JHP Hydroshocks without a failure to feed. It feeds FMJ just fine. Anyway...I do find it funny that Liberty brings up Kimber which just happens to be the one I am having issues with. Wait a minute. Maybe it isn't funny.
I just purchased a full size Kimber Raptor and fired about 100 rounds of FMJ with not one failure of any kind. Maybe it is just the smaller Kimbers. They are unbelievably fun to shoot though and are accurate right out of the box. I admit it...I am hooked on the 1911's now. I'm about to sell all my sigs.
Liberty wrote: Kimbers have been made actually usable with a bit of fluff and buff.
"And the Kimber fans replied......"
LOL...yeah...what's with taking at shot at Kimber? By coincidence my Kimber Ultra Carry is the reason I asked. It seems to be improving but for a while there I could hardly get through three magazines of Federal JHP Hydroshocks without a failure to feed. It feeds FMJ just fine. Anyway...I do find it funny that Liberty brings up Kimber which just happens to be the one I am having issues with. Wait a minute. Maybe it isn't funny.
I just purchased a full size Kimber Raptor and fired about 100 rounds of FMJ with not one failure of any kind. Maybe it is just the smaller Kimbers. They are unbelievably fun to shoot though and are accurate right out of the box. I admit it...I am hooked on the 1911's now. I'm about to sell all my sigs.
Before you try polishing your feed ramp ( which I don't advise unless you are very,very careful / easy to change the angle of the ramp by removing too much material) I suggest you check your extractor for proper tension, your slide stop for brass marks (it may need to be filed or stoned a little / Kimber will send you a new one free if you request it) and last but not least the magazine. Try a couple of different magazines and see if one works better than the other. Don't try to adjust or fix everything at once. Each time you go to the range work on one item. You can narrow down the problem that way and only fix what needs to be changed. Some 1911's shoot certain brands of HP's better than others. Try several types. Bullet ogive may be slightly different from one to the other and your particular gun may favor a certain HP. Once tweaked, they run like melted butter and are really fun to shoot.The Raptors' are very nice. Congrats.
Liberty wrote: Kimbers have been made actually usable with a bit of fluff and buff.
"And the Kimber fans replied......"
LOL...yeah...what's with taking at shot at Kimber? By coincidence my Kimber Ultra Carry is the reason I asked. It seems to be improving but for a while there I could hardly get through three magazines of Federal JHP Hydroshocks without a failure to feed. It feeds FMJ just fine. Anyway...I do find it funny that Liberty brings up Kimber which just happens to be the one I am having issues with. Wait a minute. Maybe it isn't funny.
I just purchased a full size Kimber Raptor and fired about 100 rounds of FMJ with not one failure of any kind. Maybe it is just the smaller Kimbers. They are unbelievably fun to shoot though and are accurate right out of the box. I admit it...I am hooked on the 1911's now. I'm about to sell all my sigs.
Before you try polishing your feed ramp ( which I don't advise unless you are very,very careful / easy to change the angle of the ramp by removing too much material) I suggest you check your extractor for proper tension, your slide stop for brass marks (it may need to be filed or stoned a little / Kimber will send you a new one free if you request it) and last but not least the magazine. Try a couple of different magazines and see if one works better than the other. Don't try to adjust or fix everything at once. Each time you go to the range work on one item. You can narrow down the problem that way and only fix what needs to be changed. Some 1911's shoot certain brands of HP's better than others. Try several types. Bullet ogive may be slightly different from one to the other and your particular gun may favor a certain HP. Once tweaked, they run like melted butter and are really fun to shoot.The Raptors' are very nice. Congrats.
Excellent advise gemini. That is exactly what Kimber said when I called them about it. They mailed me a new slide stop and this definitely helped. I am starting to get low on my self defense rounds and not shooting as many these days, but it got through about 25 rounds without a FTFeed after changing the slide stop. It may be corrected now as I have not had a Fail to feed since replacing the stop. When I saw this thread I got to thinking about it again. I may hold off on polishing to see if I am good to go.