50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
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50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
Hi Everyone..Here is some info and pics that i did earlier.. I have posted this on a few other forums..
Had some extra time on my hands yesterday so i took a few hrs at the range to do some of my own Balistic comparison testing using 3 sets of wet soapy phone books submerged for 1hr measuring a total of 17inches per stack..And below i have posted some pics of the depth results and expansions...My velocities might not be accurate since my guns are not full length in size so you might wanna average a few hundred fps less than what is listed below..All tests were shot from a distance of 17ft...I will list from best to worst..From my tests the best expansion was the 50GI SCHP which measured 1.05" Shot from Glock21SF .50GI conversion 4.6" Barrel...2nd place 454 Casull Barnes X HP,expanded .65" ,Shot from Ruger Alaskan 2" Snub...3rd place 10mm Federal HydraShock expanded .63" Shot from Glock29 3.7" barrel.... 4th place The Gold Dot and Magtech .45 both expanded at .50" Shot from Glock21sf 4.6" Barrel... 5th place The Winchester SXT expanded at .48" Shot from Glock21SF 4.6" Barrel...and the Aguila had no Expansion when shot from Glock21SF 4.6" Barrel..The Aguila bullet is a fragmenting bullet that is suppose to fragment into 3 pieces when impacting soft tissue...In this case nothing happened so i gave it last place...As for penetration I have it listed below with the pics..The penetration results i tried to take exact measurements since it was hard to do this with a measuring tape using phone books..The Best penetration so far that i have seen from my guns is the .454casull penetrating at a whopping 15"......Hope you guys enjoy the pics and feel free to comment.
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Had some extra time on my hands yesterday so i took a few hrs at the range to do some of my own Balistic comparison testing using 3 sets of wet soapy phone books submerged for 1hr measuring a total of 17inches per stack..And below i have posted some pics of the depth results and expansions...My velocities might not be accurate since my guns are not full length in size so you might wanna average a few hundred fps less than what is listed below..All tests were shot from a distance of 17ft...I will list from best to worst..From my tests the best expansion was the 50GI SCHP which measured 1.05" Shot from Glock21SF .50GI conversion 4.6" Barrel...2nd place 454 Casull Barnes X HP,expanded .65" ,Shot from Ruger Alaskan 2" Snub...3rd place 10mm Federal HydraShock expanded .63" Shot from Glock29 3.7" barrel.... 4th place The Gold Dot and Magtech .45 both expanded at .50" Shot from Glock21sf 4.6" Barrel... 5th place The Winchester SXT expanded at .48" Shot from Glock21SF 4.6" Barrel...and the Aguila had no Expansion when shot from Glock21SF 4.6" Barrel..The Aguila bullet is a fragmenting bullet that is suppose to fragment into 3 pieces when impacting soft tissue...In this case nothing happened so i gave it last place...As for penetration I have it listed below with the pics..The penetration results i tried to take exact measurements since it was hard to do this with a measuring tape using phone books..The Best penetration so far that i have seen from my guns is the .454casull penetrating at a whopping 15"......Hope you guys enjoy the pics and feel free to comment.
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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
bummer, can't see the pics without registering at the other site.
Cool testing.
Cool testing.
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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
same heresmasraum wrote:bummer, can't see the pics without registering at the other site.

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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics

How can pictures be posted directly to this site? I have tried but gave up...


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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
Hi guys
I tried to upload pics but it says there is no more room available..Anyways here is a link to another forum that i posted the same results with pics.
http://www.50gi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I tried to upload pics but it says there is no more room available..Anyways here is a link to another forum that i posted the same results with pics.
http://www.50gi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
its easy to do , but difficult to explain .old farmer wrote:![]()
How can pictures be posted directly to this site? I have tried but gave up...![]()
here is the picture hosting site i use .
you don't have to register , and your posted pics won't disappear like some other hosting sites .
http://tinypic.com/
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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
Ok i uploaded it using that website..check and see if it works..






Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
You have to have the picture's url typed out then highlight ir and click the Img button at the top of the post screen.
You will get something that looks like this [img]my%20pix[/img] and the picture will appear in your post.
You will get something that looks like this [img]my%20pix[/img] and the picture will appear in your post.
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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
Except for the Win SXT and Aguila IQ they all look pretty good. Your penetrations in wet pack is good. That .454 is awesome!
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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
also , you should re-size the picture .
i choose "message board (640x480)
that way you can view the entire picture without it being cropped.
the ones you already have posted can be dragged and dropped into the address bar on your browser
to be viewed in their entirety .
i choose "message board (640x480)
that way you can view the entire picture without it being cropped.
the ones you already have posted can be dragged and dropped into the address bar on your browser
to be viewed in their entirety .
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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
Thanks
That reassures me about my .45 Gold Dot's.
That reassures me about my .45 Gold Dot's.

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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
I saw the link to the ballistic gelatin test. Can you say "over penetration?" A very impressive round it is, but too risky for anything behind whatever you're shooting at. Now, if you need to shoot through a car door to get the BG then this is your round.
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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
I think the 10mm would have fared better with the 165 or 180 grain Gold Dots.
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Re: 50GI vs 10mm vs .45 vs 454 casull Balistic Testing with Pics
The 10mm is a great round and it is my other optional conceal carry that i use...I chose the 135gr nosler JHP because of the high velocity and great knockdown power i believe it is rated at 900lbs of energy..DoubleTap designed the round not over penetrate due to many safety reasons..The Double Tap Gold Dots also work great..i had a few of those a few months back but shot em out at the range..Next time i buy some i will right up another review..