I was returning home from a road trip with my beloved and we stopped at a restraunt to in Beaumont. We had stopped there before and the food was god and reasonably priced. Unfortunatly the place had changed hands. It was "Don's" now it is "Floyd's Cajun Seafood" Apparently the place had changed hands a few weeks ago.
There was a 51% sign there. They had a small bar there but no one was sitting there, the place was half full about 30 or 40 patrons. I didn't see 1 singrle person drinking. There was nothing set up for entertainment, and no wine list or beverage menu. This is clearly a restraunt that doesn't sell a lot of booze. I can't believe that 15% of their receipts are for alcohol. 51% would be rediculous.
I was not carrying (I haven't received my plastic yet). Would the TABC be interested in the abuse of their 51% sign? It was one of the signs that originated from them. They are being deceiptful. If they want no handguns they should use the proper signage, ie 36.01. If someone were carry into such a place would they be breaking the law?
The place is overpriced and the food wasn't that good. I won't be tempted to stop there again.
Inapproriate 51% signs
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Was the 51% sign in the Bar area? It might be under different ownership/management than the restaurant. You'll see this alot in restaurant/bar combos... Just stick to the eatin part of the establishment.
People smarter than me on this forum might be able to clarify the laws. I'm not sure if Restaurant Bars are required to post or not, but I do see the signs out there a good bit.
People smarter than me on this forum might be able to clarify the laws. I'm not sure if Restaurant Bars are required to post or not, but I do see the signs out there a good bit.
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Thats good news I will give them a call. I probably won't go there again. the place wasn't as good as it was when it was Don's. But if I call maybe another CHL holder who doesn't mind paying too much for a mediocre meal will be able to enjoy the place.Piney wrote: If you would like to frequent this establishment, then a call to TABC to request that they review the posted 51% sign is in order. From what I'm told they will look into it.
Just have to point this out: it's not illegal nor a violation of CHL rules to carry in a place that's improperly posted 51%.John wrote:Well that makes a huge difference. If carrying, it's time to turn around and walk away.Liberty wrote:It was posted on the glass at the front door.
On the other hand, it is a violation to carry in a place that is 51%+, but doesn't have a 51% sign.
If it's really a bar, don't carry there. If it's not really a bar, then don't worry about it.
Kevin
Looks like you have given me some good advice. I called TABC, and they were very nice. The guy told me that they will talk to the them about "proper signage". They did tell me that the sign doesn't belong there.KBCraig wrote:Just have to point this out: it's not illegal nor a violation of CHL rules to carry in a place that's improperly posted 51%.John wrote:Well that makes a huge difference. If carrying, it's time to turn around and walk away.Liberty wrote:It was posted on the glass at the front door.
On the other hand, it is a violation to carry in a place that is 51%+, but doesn't have a 51% sign.
If it's really a bar, don't carry there. If it's not really a bar, then don't worry about it.
Kevin
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I don't know what legal will say but I would hope that having to pass through isn't the same as being there.seamusTX wrote:The lobby of the Tremont House hotel in Galveston is a cocktail lounge. IIRC, you can't get to the registration desk without going through it.
How do you deal with that?
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I will ask.
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posting a 51% sign
I don't understand about the 51% issue, if they didn't want you to carry, wouldn't they just post a 30.06 sign? That's legal for any business to post regardless if they sell alcohol. It seems to me that they probably think they are doing the CHL holders a favor by warning them that there is a possibility of sales at 51%. They probably don't care if you carry in the food area, either that or they are just ignorant of the purpose of the signs.
Re: posting a 51% sign
The 30.06 sign is big, specific and has to be provided by the proprietor. The 51% sign is smaller and supplied by the TABC. It puts the blame for the restriction on the Texas law rather than take resposibilty themselves. Ignorance may have something to do with it, hence we have so many inproper 30.06 signage. There was no lounge area at this place only a small bar with 5 or 6 seats. If the bar is a seperate entity (which is unlikely) a 51% sign would be appropriate behind the bar.O6nop wrote:I don't understand about the 51% issue, if they didn't want you to carry, wouldn't they just post a 30.06 sign? That's legal for any business to post regardless if they sell alcohol. It seems to me that they probably think they are doing the CHL holders a favor by warning them that there is a possibility of sales at 51%. They probably don't care if you carry in the food area, either that or they are just ignorant of the purpose of the signs.