Fiance doesn't think she needs a gun

[srothstein]

Be careful of the Taser. Carrying one is ILLEGAL in Texas unless you're licensed. For the life of me, I cannot find a darn Taser class in Dallas to get me licensed for Taser carry.

There is no such law in Texas and that may be why it is so hard to find the class. There was a bill introduced last session to try to regulate Tasers like the CHL and create the license but it died without making much progress. Note that the law on unlawfully carrying only regulates illegal knives, clubs, and handguns. Stunguns are not mentioned, nor are conducted energy weapons (the proper term for Tasers).

[drjoker]

My CHL instructor told me not to get a Taser because it is illegal to carry one in Texas without a license. The guy at the sporting good store that sold them told me the same thing. They both told me that it is legal to have in your home, but it is illegal to carry it outside your home without a separate license. Both the CHL instructor and the guy at the sporting goods store told me to buy a gun instead. Maybe one of y'all who is a lawyer could tell us the law without giving us legal advice. Thanks.

Upon further research, I think that Tasers are not banned in Texas, but just banned in certain cities such as Dallas. This quote is from the Taser website:

*Various Texas cities and municipalities may have regulations regarding stun guns and TASER ECDS, including but not limited to: Addison,
Alice, Dallas County, Duncanville, Flower Mound, Freeport, Kilgore and The Colony. Please be sure to check with the local government
regarding their regulations.

Again, if you are a lawyer, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[chabouk]

My CHL instructor told me not to get a Taser because it is illegal to carry one in Texas without a license. The guy at the sporting good store that sold them told me the same thing.

If you had only asked a cop, you'd have had a hat trick of the three worst sources of legal advice.

[srothstein]

Without giving legal advice, here is the state law (chapter 46 of the Penal Code) from the official web site:

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.46.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is a big warning on the site that the latest changes may not be incorporated into the laws until January.

And I think you might have answered your own question about the cities. While cities may not regulate firearms in Texas, the preemption law does not cover Tasers or stun guns. I was unaware of those municipalities regulating them. You can look up the actual municipal codes for most cities through Google (for example, Addison's is on-line at http://library7.municode.com/default-te ... n=whatsnew" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

I would suggest checking the city codes for the cities you live and work in first, then anything you regularly visit.

[jgp]

she cried when she tried to shoot.

That is actually not uncommon. I forewarn my students that a lot of women react this way when they get the adrenaline dump that may come from firing a gun for the first time. I let them know that it's a coping mechanism, and nothing to be ashamed of and that no one will judge them for it. The ones that cry then just do so, take a minute to recompose themselves and get back into it. After that they're fine.

[LostInAustin]

Sometimes it just has to come from somebody other than the husband/boyfriend.

She needs to learn from someone that is NOT you.

Your just a silly "gun nut" until she sees that some of her friends think just like you do!

Then you become not so silly and not such a "gun nut".

And no comment needed on teaching your spouse something as important as handling a firearm!

[RocTrac]

When my Mother and Sister in Law got wind of my "EVIL" plans to arm my wife, they lit into her and now she is refusing to even consider CCW and is now talking about not even having one in the Home. I tried to show how Home invasion is on the rise as well as other violent crimes but it is not going well. Before this happened we went to Crossfires basic handgun and then a few trips to the range. Now she has the "it wont happen to me" mentality. HELP!!!!

"and is now talking about not even having one in the Home". I guess that was written wrong. She doen't even want access to the weapons, when I tried to give her the safe combination she didn't want it. The jist of it is that she dosen't want a gun to CCW or even for the Home. It is okay for me to have a weapon, but she thinks that it is silly.

[Crossfire]

Now she has the "it wont happen to me" mentality. HELP!!!!

That used to be me. We live in a nice neighborhood. We don't go to bad places. We don't hang out with bad people. The police are there to protect me. Nothing bad could ever happen to me.

I believed that. Until it DID happen to me. In my very own nice home, in my nice neighborhood, with my nice children at home. And the police responded in only 1 hour, 45 minutes. After there was nothing left for them to protect. It was already done.

Some of us have to learn the hard way. I'm sorry.

[dicion]

Hate to say it, but if this is a very important issue to you, you have to make that clear.
You have to decide how important it is in your relationship, and figure out where to go from there.

My wife is neutral/lukewarm on guns. She probably won't get her CCW, but she has no problem with my having mine, or with my having guns in the house or anything.
She has no problem with occasional shooting, and even enjoys it.
This is a position that, while, not my own, I do not disagree with it, and I respect her decision and don't think less of her for any reason for it.

If she was adamantly against guns, and said that they would never be in her house, she probably wouldn't be my wife. Not saying that that single issue would do it, but there's a lot of other things that go along with the acceptance of firearms, especially in the hands of someone else, mainly trust issues.

If she can't trust you to handle firearms responsibly, even after being educated about them (as I assume she was at Crossfire's class) then, to me, that is a big issue.
What you do with your life, and what compromises you make are your decision (as everything in Marriage is a compromise!!) but if this is really that important to you, you have to make that clear.

Does she ever ride in a car while you are driving? If so, she obviously trusts you not to swerve into oncoming traffic, and there are thousands of times more vehicle accidents than gun accidents.
Does she trust you with a hammer or reciprocating saw or other power tools? Those are just as likely to accidentally injure or kill someone as a firearm is.

Her fear of firearms is irrational if she does not fear you owning or possessing any of these other 'weapons of mass death, that kill thousands of people every year'.

[big 54r]

Now she has the "it wont happen to me" mentality. HELP!!!!

That used to be me. We live in a nice neighborhood. We don't go to bad places. We don't hang out with bad people. The police are there to protect me. Nothing bad could ever happen to me.

I believed that. Until it DID happen to me. In my very own nice home, in my nice neighborhood, with my nice children at home. And the police responded in only 1 hour, 45 minutes. After there was nothing left for them to protect. It was already done.

Some of us have to learn the hard way. I'm sorry.

roctrac I feel for you brother! Hopefully with patience and grace you can change your wife's mind and educate your Mother and sister in law and get them aware and self defense minded also.
GOOD luck with that!

crossfire I feel you also!
I live in a 'so-called' nice neighborhood and 2 month's ago there was a home invasian 2 house's down from me at 9:30 pm early to mid evening!
Know other's know why I still have my carry piece on me when I cut the lawn.

[RocTrac]

Thanks guys, I am gonna try to find out exactly why she has changed her mind. Ladies, is there any thing that you can think of that I can do or say or get her with a group of Women to undo the damage done by the Mom and Sis? I haven't thought about this until a few months ago. There has been a increase in crime here and well, I don't want my family to be a victom.
Thanks
Carl

[suthdj]

and is now talking about not even having one in the Home.

Take this with a grain of salt, but did you ask her where she plans to live, because you plan to have a gun in the house. Remember it is a joint relationship she can not over rule you and you can not over rule her. It sounds like she is trying to set the rules without your input or opinion and you do have the power of veto it is called bye bye. I am glad I am not in your position it is a hard choice to make. "Love Stinks"

[CompVest]

Like most people women don't like to be told what they should do. I know for me empathy without any judgment works the best. This is a really hard way for anybody, man or woman, to communicate. However , the benefit is that you will get to hear her issues and hopefully she will then be open to hearing your issues. I don't know your lady so I am truly guessing, but it is just possible all she needs is for you to listen, just listen, to her and then leave her alone to make the decision on her own.

As far as women shooting groups, find out where they are and give her the info and let it go at that. Perhaps you can make a point of being busy that day and time so she is free to go by her choice. Another thought is why not skeep or trap? Perhaps she might enjoy these non-personal protection shooting activities more.

[srothstein]

If it helps at all, you can tell her that the cops are even advising people to arm and defend themselves. While I (and others here on this board) have been doing it for a while, it is now getting national recognition. I was reading an article in the latest issue of Police magazine where they were reviewing the recent TREXPO (Tactical Response Expo, a police/SWAT conference). During the active shooter training session, one of the presenters (not an audience member) was saying that the police need to start telling the public that we cannot defend them. The police response to an active shooter call will be around 20-25 minutes. There may or may not be an officer on the scene quicker, but the tactical team will almost never get there in less than a half hour.

There is a change in tactics to get officers to go in quicker, but even the best response time for the first officer on the scene is going to be three minutes. You need to be able to defend yourself and live that long at a bare minimum.

[RocTrac]

A small edit to my original post. I am not real good with words and it is even worse in person.
Thanks for all the helpfull suggestions. As far as parting ways, well......NO. To much time, to many kids, LOVE her way to much. But if anybody wants to take my Maw in Law and Sis in Law, you can have em


and is now talking about not even having one in the Home". I guess that was written wrong. She doen't even want access to the weapons, when I tried to give her the safe combination she didn't want it. The jist of it is that she dosen't want a gun to CCW or even for the Home. It is okay for me to have a weapon, but she thinks that it is silly.