A candidate for the Darwin Awards indeed
What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
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What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
Stumbled upon this story the other day. Great anecdote to tell antis when referencing gun-free zones. Obviously, the many gun-free zones that have been the scene of mass killings is the start of the conversation (Columbine & Virginia Tech = schools; Fort Hood = military base; Killeen Luby's = prior to CHL). But then hit 'em with this, what happens to criminals in "gun-plentiful zones".
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A candidate for the Darwin Awards indeed
A candidate for the Darwin Awards indeed
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Zee
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
That's what I always imagined would happen.
80% Liberal, 90% Democrat, 100% Responsible gun owner.
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Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill (1806-1873)
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
That's a classic.
But, but, ... you have to understand, if there wasn't a gun shop to rob, the poor, misguided man would not have tried to rob it. He would have been raising organic lettuce or making hand-thrown pottery.
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But, but, ... you have to understand, if there wasn't a gun shop to rob, the poor, misguided man would not have tried to rob it. He would have been raising organic lettuce or making hand-thrown pottery.
- Jim
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
Yeah, but make sure to read the real encounter, and not the enhanced Darwin Award version. There were not 23 shots on the guy, only 4, and the shop owner/clerk and the cop were the only guys that shot (other than the idiot robber.)
Still, the others were ready if needed.
Still, the others were ready if needed.
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
Two other things to note about this incident:
- The cop had no trouble figuring out who was the bad guy.
- The situation did not turn into a circular firing squad.
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
Wow. That shocks me...
that the cop was having coffee in the gun shop... and not at the Donut Shop.

that the cop was having coffee in the gun shop... and not at the Donut Shop.
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
The gun shop back in my home town has donuts in the mornings too. Since they have coffee, donuts and firearms, guess that makes it a 'one stop cop shop' !!longhorn_92 wrote:Wow. That shocks me...
that the cop was having coffee in the gun shop... and not at the Donut Shop.![]()
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
Our educational system and society in general failed him.
poor guy.
poor guy.
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
I wouldn't consider that failing him, failure would have been letting him think he could get away with that... 
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
From the October nn, 2005 Odessa American in Odessa, Texas:
Police have arrested two suspects in Tuesday’s failed robbery attempt at Gun Sport Ltd.
According to an OPD news release, two men entered the store Tuesday afternoon, and one pepper sprayed an employee.
The employee, whose name was being withheld, managed to keep one of the men from leaving the store by holding a gun on him, according to Sgt. Bob Forbus.
The other man reportedly fled on foot.
On Tuesday, police arrested Jameyl Loud Webb, 19, 2617 San Andres Drive, inside the store and charged him with robbery.
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The owner of Gun Sport Ltd., Jon Thomas, said he was surprised and pleased at how quickly police arrested suspects in the robbery, but that he felt sorry for them.
“Here’s a young guy, doesn’t look stupid, but he may spend the next 10 years making little rocks out of big ones,” he said.
Thomas said the robbery was the first time in 30 years of owning gun shops that one of his was held up.
“Gun shops, by and large, aren’t targets because we have guns,” he said. “It’s like someone trying to rob a snake farm.”
SIA
Police have arrested two suspects in Tuesday’s failed robbery attempt at Gun Sport Ltd.
According to an OPD news release, two men entered the store Tuesday afternoon, and one pepper sprayed an employee.
The employee, whose name was being withheld, managed to keep one of the men from leaving the store by holding a gun on him, according to Sgt. Bob Forbus.
The other man reportedly fled on foot.
On Tuesday, police arrested Jameyl Loud Webb, 19, 2617 San Andres Drive, inside the store and charged him with robbery.
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The owner of Gun Sport Ltd., Jon Thomas, said he was surprised and pleased at how quickly police arrested suspects in the robbery, but that he felt sorry for them.
“Here’s a young guy, doesn’t look stupid, but he may spend the next 10 years making little rocks out of big ones,” he said.
Thomas said the robbery was the first time in 30 years of owning gun shops that one of his was held up.
“Gun shops, by and large, aren’t targets because we have guns,” he said. “It’s like someone trying to rob a snake farm.”
SIA
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2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
I wonder if anybody in that Seattle gunshop has their hearing intact. 
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Re: What happens to criminals in gun-plentiful zones
I had to laugh as I read that story.austinrealtor wrote:Stumbled upon this story the other day. Great anecdote to tell antis when referencing gun-free zones. Obviously, the many gun-free zones that have been the scene of mass killings is the start of the conversation (Columbine & Virginia Tech = schools; Fort Hood = military base; Killeen Luby's = prior to CHL). But then hit 'em with this, what happens to criminals in "gun-plentiful zones".
http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/gunshop.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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