Cite your sources sir......cowboymd wrote:It was a North American Arms 22 revolver.TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.
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Re: sherman chl incident
Investigating LEO.NTexas_V-Star wrote:Cite your sources sir......cowboymd wrote:It was a North American Arms 22 revolver.TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.
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Not surprising if it was. These are single action and no trigger guard. If the guy carried it cocked then it is an accident waiting to happen.
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Don't those things have an off-chamber notch?cowboymd wrote:It was a North American Arms 22 revolver.TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.
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Yeah, they do, but if he didn't use it, then 
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My little NAA .22 Magnum is one of the older ones WITHOUT this feature...gonna be calling them up and getting the new safety cylinder.
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That sounds plausible. I do know that you can fire those by holding down the trigger and working the hammer.cowboymd wrote:It was a North American Arms 22 revolver.TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.
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Which, technically, means you could call them Class 3, if you wanted...
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It seems that the man who had the ND needs to
rethink his holstering setup.
It fell out of his jacket? Really??
IMHO.
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rethink his holstering setup.
It fell out of his jacket? Really??
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Nope, because they require a distinct mechanical operation for every shot. My 1906 Winchester pump .22 doesn't have a disconnect, so if you hold the trigger back you can empty it as fast as you can pump the slide. (That's pretty darn fast, by the way.)chartreuse wrote:That sounds plausible. I do know that you can fire those by holding down the trigger and working the hammer.cowboymd wrote:It was a North American Arms 22 revolver.TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.
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Which, technically, means you could call them Class 3, if you wanted...
Using a "Hellfire" or other crank device on a semi-auto is legal because each shot still requires one actuation of the trigger,
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Well, I was kind of kidding, as I don't think there's much chance of it ever coming to court, but the trigger thing was the point of the joke. The law mentions a single actuation of the trigger, but says nothing about hammers or slides. And, as you say, by working them you're able to fire multiple rounds with only a single pull of the trigger...chabouk wrote:Nope, because they require a distinct mechanical operation for every shot. My 1906 Winchester pump .22 doesn't have a disconnect, so if you hold the trigger back you can empty it as fast as you can pump the slide. (That's pretty darn fast, by the way.)chartreuse wrote:That sounds plausible. I do know that you can fire those by holding down the trigger and working the hammer.cowboymd wrote:It was a North American Arms 22 revolver.TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.
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Which, technically, means you could call them Class 3, if you wanted...
Using a "Hellfire" or other crank device on a semi-auto is legal because each shot still requires one actuation of the trigger,
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cowboymd wrote:Investigating LEO.NTexas_V-Star wrote:Cite your sources sir......cowboymd wrote:It was a North American Arms 22 revolver.TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.
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Ahh, I see. Thank you sir.
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Re: sherman chl incident
Remember, we're dealing with ATF-speak, and in their view the "trigger" is not always the thing inside the trigger guard. It's whatever you do to make it go "bang".chartreuse wrote:Well, I was kind of kidding, as I don't think there's much chance of it ever coming to court, but the trigger thing was the point of the joke. The law mentions a single actuation of the trigger, but says nothing about hammers or slides. And, as you say, by working them you're able to fire multiple rounds with only a single pull of the trigger...
So, when closing the slide on a pump .22, or fanning a Peacemaker, the slide or the hammer becomes the actual trigger.
Don't look for it to make consistent sense, it's the government.
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Hmmmm....
I have had a negligent discharge once. Once was all it took, and I've been paranoid about it ever since. But I have never dropped, nor even come close to dropping, any kind of firearm — rifle or pistol, loaded or not.
Just lucky, I guess.
I have had a negligent discharge once. Once was all it took, and I've been paranoid about it ever since. But I have never dropped, nor even come close to dropping, any kind of firearm — rifle or pistol, loaded or not.
Just lucky, I guess.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:But I have never dropped, nor even come close to dropping, any kind of firearm — rifle or pistol, loaded or not.
We'll be watching "Never Again" for your story. I give it a year
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What are the odds that he tried to catch it while it was falling?