Church Shootings
Moderator: carlson1
Church Shootings
Sometime back, I heard on the news the number of church shootings in 2009. I was surprised, as I had not heard of most of them. Does anyone recall a number, or better yet a source for such information? I am currently writing an article for a magazine dealing with preachers who CC.
Thanks
Wayne
Thanks
Wayne
NRA Life Member
NRA Instructor for Refuse To Be A Victim
Instructor of Basic, Advanced and Defensive Handgun, CHL
http://www.castlekeepservices.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
NRA Instructor for Refuse To Be A Victim
Instructor of Basic, Advanced and Defensive Handgun, CHL
http://www.castlekeepservices.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 281
- Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:45 pm
- Location: DFW, Texas
- Contact:
Re: Church Shootings
PLease post your findings. The only one that I remember was in the one in Illinois mid year.
Col 2:8 See to it that no man takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men,according to the elementary principles of the world,rather than according to Christ.
austin received app 12/10
Processing app 12/22/08
App comp 1/26/09
Plastic in hand 1/30/09
austin received app 12/10
Processing app 12/22/08
App comp 1/26/09
Plastic in hand 1/30/09
- troglodyte
- Senior Member
- Posts: 1322
- Joined: Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:16 pm
- Location: Hockley County
- Contact:
Re: Church Shootings
Here's what I found. I casually try to keep up with school and church shootings as a teacher at a Christian school.
From http://www.listafterlist.com/tabid/57/l ... tings.aspx
Aug. 12, 2007 - Missouri - First Congregational Church (Micronesian) - Pastor and 2 Worshipers Killed - shooter's name yet to be released.
May 21, 2006 - Louisiana - Jesus Christ Church - 4 Killed including Shooter's Wife - Anthony Bell
Feb. 26, 2006 - Michigan - Zion Hope Missionary Baptist Church - 2 People Killed - Kevin L. Collins, who reportedly went to the church looking for his girlfriend, later killed himself.
March 12, 2005 - Wisconsin - Living Church of God (Evangelical group) - 7 Churchgoers Killed - Terry Ratzmann concluded by killing himself.
July 30, 2005 - New York - World Changers Church International - Air Force Staff Sgt. John Givens was shot 5 times by a police officer after charging the officer, following violent behavior.
Sept. 15, 1999 - Texas - Wedgewood Baptist Church - 7 People Killed - Larry Gene - Diary writings revealed Ashbrook was "a very emotionally disturbed person."
From http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2009/03/ch-list.html
March 8, 2009 - Maryville, Illinois - Suspect Terry Joe Sedlacek, 27, of Troy, walks into the First Baptist Church, and shoots pastor Fred Winters dead, point blank. Several church members are injured by a knife in the struggle to capture after the attack, The suspect also had stabbed himelf, but survived, when his gun jams.
Feb. 18, 2009 - Garden Grove, California - A man walks into the internationally known Crystal Cathedral, hands a greeter a note, then kneels in front of a cross and shoots himself in the head, leaving him dead at the altar.
July 27, 2008 - Knoxville, Tennessee - A gunman opens fire in a church during a youth performance, killing two people and injuring seven.
Dec. 9, 2007 - Colorado - Three people are killed and five wounded in two shooting rampages, one at a missionary school in suburban Denver and one at a church in Colorado Springs. The gunman in the second incident is killed by a guard.
May 20, 2007 - Moscow, Idaho - A standoff between police and a suspect in the shootings of three people in a Presbyterian Church ended with three dead, including one police officer.
Aug. 12, 2007 - Neosho, Missouri - First Congregational Church - 3 killed - Eiken Elam Saimon shot and killed the pastor and two deacons and wounded five others.
Oct. 2, 2006 - Lancaster County, Pennsylvania - Attack by a gunman who killed five girls and then himself, while not a church, occurs at an Amish school targeted a religious site.
May 21, 2006 - Baton Rouge, Louisiana - The Ministry of Jesus Christ Church - 4 killed - The four at the church who were shot were members of Erica Bell's family; she was abducted and murdered elsewhere; Bell's mother, church pastor Claudia Brown, was seriously wounded - Anthony Bell, 25, was the shooter.
Feb. 26, 2006 - Detroit, Michigan - Zion Hope Missionary Baptist Church - 2 killed + shooter - Kevin L. Collins, who reportedly went to the church looking for his girlfriend, later killed himself.
April 9, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - A 27-year-old airman died after being shot at a church, where he had once worked as a security guard.
March 12, 2005 - Brookfield, Wisconsin - Living Church of God - 7 killed + shooter - Terry Ratzmann opened fire on the congregation, killing seven and wounding four before taking his own life.
July 30, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - World Changers Church International - shooter killed - Air Force Staff Sgt. John Givens was shot five times by a police officer after charging the officer, following violent behavior.
Dec. 17, 2004, Garden Grove, Calif.: A veteran musician at the Crystal Cathedral shoots himself to death after a nine-hour standoff.
Oct. 5, 2003 - Atlanta, Georgia - Turner Monumental AME Church - 2 killed + shooter - Shelia Wilson walked into the church while preparations are being made for service and shot the pastor, her mother and then herself.
June 10, 2002 - Conception, Missouri - Benedictine monastery - 2 killed + shooter - Lloyd Robert Jeffress shot four monks in the monastery killing two and wounding two, before killing himself.
March 12, 2002 - Lynbrook, New York - Our Lady of Peace Catholic Church - 2 killed - Peter Troy, a former mental patient, opens fire during Mass, killing the priest and a parishioner. He later receives a life sentence.
May 18, 2001 - Hopkinsville, Kentucky - Greater Oak Missionary Baptist Church - 2 killed - Frederick Radford stood up in the middle of a revival service and began shooting at his estranged wife, Nicole Radford, killing her and a woman trying to help her.
Nov. 1, 2000, Kansas City: The wife of a minister fatally shoots her daughter and then herself.
Sept. 15, 1999 - Fort Worth, Texas - Wedgewood Baptist Church - 7 killed + shooter - Larry Gene Ashbrook shot dead seven people and injured a further seven at a concert by Christian rock group Forty Days in Fort Worth, Texas before killing himself.
April 15, 1999 - Salt Lake City, Utah - LDS Church Family History Library - 2 killed + shooter - Sergei Babarin, 70, with a history of mental illness, entered the library, killed two people and wounded four others before he was gunned down by police.
From http://www.listafterlist.com/tabid/57/l ... tings.aspx
Aug. 12, 2007 - Missouri - First Congregational Church (Micronesian) - Pastor and 2 Worshipers Killed - shooter's name yet to be released.
May 21, 2006 - Louisiana - Jesus Christ Church - 4 Killed including Shooter's Wife - Anthony Bell
Feb. 26, 2006 - Michigan - Zion Hope Missionary Baptist Church - 2 People Killed - Kevin L. Collins, who reportedly went to the church looking for his girlfriend, later killed himself.
March 12, 2005 - Wisconsin - Living Church of God (Evangelical group) - 7 Churchgoers Killed - Terry Ratzmann concluded by killing himself.
July 30, 2005 - New York - World Changers Church International - Air Force Staff Sgt. John Givens was shot 5 times by a police officer after charging the officer, following violent behavior.
Sept. 15, 1999 - Texas - Wedgewood Baptist Church - 7 People Killed - Larry Gene - Diary writings revealed Ashbrook was "a very emotionally disturbed person."
From http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2009/03/ch-list.html
March 8, 2009 - Maryville, Illinois - Suspect Terry Joe Sedlacek, 27, of Troy, walks into the First Baptist Church, and shoots pastor Fred Winters dead, point blank. Several church members are injured by a knife in the struggle to capture after the attack, The suspect also had stabbed himelf, but survived, when his gun jams.
Feb. 18, 2009 - Garden Grove, California - A man walks into the internationally known Crystal Cathedral, hands a greeter a note, then kneels in front of a cross and shoots himself in the head, leaving him dead at the altar.
July 27, 2008 - Knoxville, Tennessee - A gunman opens fire in a church during a youth performance, killing two people and injuring seven.
Dec. 9, 2007 - Colorado - Three people are killed and five wounded in two shooting rampages, one at a missionary school in suburban Denver and one at a church in Colorado Springs. The gunman in the second incident is killed by a guard.
May 20, 2007 - Moscow, Idaho - A standoff between police and a suspect in the shootings of three people in a Presbyterian Church ended with three dead, including one police officer.
Aug. 12, 2007 - Neosho, Missouri - First Congregational Church - 3 killed - Eiken Elam Saimon shot and killed the pastor and two deacons and wounded five others.
Oct. 2, 2006 - Lancaster County, Pennsylvania - Attack by a gunman who killed five girls and then himself, while not a church, occurs at an Amish school targeted a religious site.
May 21, 2006 - Baton Rouge, Louisiana - The Ministry of Jesus Christ Church - 4 killed - The four at the church who were shot were members of Erica Bell's family; she was abducted and murdered elsewhere; Bell's mother, church pastor Claudia Brown, was seriously wounded - Anthony Bell, 25, was the shooter.
Feb. 26, 2006 - Detroit, Michigan - Zion Hope Missionary Baptist Church - 2 killed + shooter - Kevin L. Collins, who reportedly went to the church looking for his girlfriend, later killed himself.
April 9, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - A 27-year-old airman died after being shot at a church, where he had once worked as a security guard.
March 12, 2005 - Brookfield, Wisconsin - Living Church of God - 7 killed + shooter - Terry Ratzmann opened fire on the congregation, killing seven and wounding four before taking his own life.
July 30, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - World Changers Church International - shooter killed - Air Force Staff Sgt. John Givens was shot five times by a police officer after charging the officer, following violent behavior.
Dec. 17, 2004, Garden Grove, Calif.: A veteran musician at the Crystal Cathedral shoots himself to death after a nine-hour standoff.
Oct. 5, 2003 - Atlanta, Georgia - Turner Monumental AME Church - 2 killed + shooter - Shelia Wilson walked into the church while preparations are being made for service and shot the pastor, her mother and then herself.
June 10, 2002 - Conception, Missouri - Benedictine monastery - 2 killed + shooter - Lloyd Robert Jeffress shot four monks in the monastery killing two and wounding two, before killing himself.
March 12, 2002 - Lynbrook, New York - Our Lady of Peace Catholic Church - 2 killed - Peter Troy, a former mental patient, opens fire during Mass, killing the priest and a parishioner. He later receives a life sentence.
May 18, 2001 - Hopkinsville, Kentucky - Greater Oak Missionary Baptist Church - 2 killed - Frederick Radford stood up in the middle of a revival service and began shooting at his estranged wife, Nicole Radford, killing her and a woman trying to help her.
Nov. 1, 2000, Kansas City: The wife of a minister fatally shoots her daughter and then herself.
Sept. 15, 1999 - Fort Worth, Texas - Wedgewood Baptist Church - 7 killed + shooter - Larry Gene Ashbrook shot dead seven people and injured a further seven at a concert by Christian rock group Forty Days in Fort Worth, Texas before killing himself.
April 15, 1999 - Salt Lake City, Utah - LDS Church Family History Library - 2 killed + shooter - Sergei Babarin, 70, with a history of mental illness, entered the library, killed two people and wounded four others before he was gunned down by police.
Re: Church Shootings
There was one in Arkansas last month:
http://www.arkansascarry.com/article154.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.arkansascarry.com/article154.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Church Shootings
Does it surprise you that Churchs draw crazys? You always hear crazy people tell them God/the Devil/Jesus/Alex Trebic told them to do it, why not go to a place where large amounts of people will be with their guards down?
In Capitalism, Man exploits Man. In Communism, it's just the reverse
Re: Church Shootings
Does not surprise me that church shootings occur...my original not was a surprise that there have apparently been a large number in 2009 that apparently didn't catch national media. It was on Tom Greshems Gun Talk radio show...and this summer he said there had already been like around a dozen church shootings across the US in 2009 alone. That's the number I am trying to verify. As a preacher, I am frequently alone at the church building, and you get vagrants, people with problems of all types, mental cases, etc. that come to ask for help (usually money). When you turn them down, they often get very heated. I am writing an article on ministers who carry and the why's and wherefore's.marksiwel wrote:Does it surprise you that Churchs draw crazys? You always hear crazy people tell them God/the Devil/Jesus/Alex Trebic told them to do it, why not go to a place where large amounts of people will be with their guards down?
Thanks
Wayne
NRA Life Member
NRA Instructor for Refuse To Be A Victim
Instructor of Basic, Advanced and Defensive Handgun, CHL
http://www.castlekeepservices.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
NRA Instructor for Refuse To Be A Victim
Instructor of Basic, Advanced and Defensive Handgun, CHL
http://www.castlekeepservices.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Church Shootings
If you want factual information regarding church shootings and such, I recommend contacting someone
at Lightsecurityconsulting.com as they maintain records of stuff like that. Church shootings have
really increased in the last few years.
at Lightsecurityconsulting.com as they maintain records of stuff like that. Church shootings have
really increased in the last few years.
Re: Church Shootings
Hmmm, now that could prove VERY useful. Thanks so much to everyone on this. It will be a month or more before I complete the article, but when I do, I will post it on here.Lightman wrote:If you want factual information regarding church shootings and such, I recommend contacting someone
at Lightsecurityconsulting.com as they maintain records of stuff like that. Church shootings have
really increased in the last few years.
Any others who have thoughts or stats that might be useful for such an article, please feel free to keep posting them.
Wayne

NRA Life Member
NRA Instructor for Refuse To Be A Victim
Instructor of Basic, Advanced and Defensive Handgun, CHL
http://www.castlekeepservices.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
NRA Instructor for Refuse To Be A Victim
Instructor of Basic, Advanced and Defensive Handgun, CHL
http://www.castlekeepservices.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;