AR15 rifle VS pistol

[dicion]

while we are on the subject, what do you need in order to buy a SBR? just pay the tax stamps? do you need a special license or it's just filling out forms while buying?
do you need to pay the taxes every year?
is it like FFL that you have to consent to a search at anytime?

The answer is: Depends

If it's an assembled SBR, yes, you will need the tax stamp in advance.. Any Title II Weapons dealer will help you with the paperwork. Generally, you go in, put money down, fill out the paperwork, and they hold it until you receive your stamp.

If you're custom building it, you don't NEED anything other than the parts to physically build a SBR.**
You can obtain a stripped or complete lower from almost anywhere, and the rest of the parts can be ordered online. You could completely just build a SBR in your home.**

** THIS IS, HOWEVER, HIGHLY, SUPER MEGA, STUPIDLY ILLEGAL. DON'T DO IT!!
(If I could have made that Flash, I would have)

What you're supposed to do, is obtain the Tax stamp before even Owning all the parts to build it. Once you receive the tax stamp, THEN you go and order the rest of the parts to build your SBR. Owning the parts before having the tax stamp could be construed as attempting to illegally construct.

tl;dr version: Get the stamp first, then pick up, or build your SBR.

Also.. Go the Trust Route. No LEO Sign-off Required, and it allows multiple people to have possession of it.

[rm9792]

Only looking at the pistol, I have reason to doubt their info.

A Semi-Auto pistol with an ability to accept a detachable magazine can not have two (2) or more of the following features:

1. an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip.
2. a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer.
3. a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned.
4. a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded. a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

My Kel-tec PLR-16 as shipped, has 1,2, and 4 (51+ oz). They sell the forearm, adding 3 to the list.

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A tec-22 has all of that except #4. So does a GSG-5, MP5, etc.

[Mike1951]

I pointed out further on that these regulations ended with the AWB.

[tb7475]

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quote="dicion"]

while we are on the subject, what do you need in order to buy a SBR? just pay the tax stamps? do you need a special license or it's just filling out forms while buying?
do you need to pay the taxes every year?
is it like FFL that you have to consent to a search at anytime?

The answer is: Depends

If it's an assembled SBR, yes, you will need the tax stamp in advance.. Any Title II Weapons dealer will help you with the paperwork. Generally, you go in, put money down, fill out the paperwork, and they hold it until you receive your stamp.

If you're custom building it, you don't NEED anything other than the parts to physically build a SBR.**
You can obtain a stripped or complete lower from almost anywhere, and the rest of the parts can be ordered online. You could completely just build a SBR in your home


if you are going to built it yourself,you have to wait till your form 1 in hand before you can have a complete SBR.You can not bulit it first then apply for SBR,and you can file form 1 application yourself without going through title II dealer.
You only need to pay that $200 tax stamp one time,doesn't need to renew it every year.

[rm9792]

What you're supposed to do, is obtain the Tax stamp before even Owning all the parts to build it. Once you receive the tax stamp, THEN you go and order the rest of the parts to build your SBR. Owning the parts before having the tax stamp could be construed as attempting to illegally construct.

Also.. Go the Trust Route. No LEO Sign-off Required, and it allows multiple people to have possession of it.

So if I have a pistol upper or even a short barrel then i am in violation? Parts are parts, how could they convict (or even know) on that? Washers and pipe make a silencer so are we all in hot water since every garage has those? I would like a bullpup SBR, PS90 or CX4 Storm but too much hassle.

[Ashlar]

It's called 'constructive intent'. Just having the parts on hand to make an unregistered SBR can get you in hot water.

Every time I've built a pistol, I make sure to have a dedicated lower on hand before I purchase the pistol upper (preferably one marked as pistol). And I never use a buffer tube that can accept a stock.