Demographic changes since 5/04

[mec]

The monthly updates stopped last May. I called the Concealed Handgun unit and was transfered around a while ending up at Desiree's work station. She was not available. This was between Christmas and New Year. I sent an email which was not answered.

Apparently, it was too much trouble to supply updated numbers on active CHLs and Instructors. Does anybody have newer information?

[one eyed fatman]

Check with the DPS online.

http://www.texasonline.state.tx.us/NASA ... elcome.jsp

[mec]

YES
For the first six years this specific site was updated each month. It has not been updated since 5/7/2004

[ScottDLS]

YES
For the first six years this specific site was updated each month. It has not been updated since 5/7/2004

I just wanted to revive the oldest thread on the "General Texas CHL Discussion".

Also, what do you think about a CHL Badge? I'm thinking of getting one to cover me for Post Office carry.

[mec]

The most recent updates show the continuing trend of more participation by African Americans. In the beginning they were under 3 percent> Now they are up to 6 percent and getting close to their actual proportion of the general population. In 1996, the largest single age was 46. Now it is 62. The same group of people have kept this trend every year. Now, the numbers seem to be narrowing a bit.

The badges could create the impression that the wearer is a law enforcement officer leading member of the public to expect them to carry out law enforcement functions. They might also tend to irritate actual law enforcement officers on several different levels.

[mikeintexas]

ScottDLS, do you wear your CHL badge pinned to your CHL sash? Then, do you wear the sash/badge under or over your CHL jacket? I'm just trying to establish protocol.

[OldCannon]

Also, what do you think about a CHL Badge? I'm thinking of getting one to cover me for Post Office carry.

I think almost every police officer I know would want to take you in a back room and beat you senseless for doing that.

There's about a million bad things that can happen because you wave some kind of badge around. If you have to pull something out for ID, it better be your CHL.

BTW, if you carry on Federal Property, you're asking for the biggest kind of trouble possible. Even if they call the cops and it's all "haha! just a simple mistake", you're still likely to get charged by federal prosecutors that get promoted in their jobs because they _prosecute_, not because they forgive. You can scratch around for every nuance you can in the laws(18 USC 930, in case you and a lawyer want to sit down and discuss it first), but once a postal employee hits a panic button, you're staring down THOUSANDS of dollars in legal costs, not to mention some jittery SWAT teams. And don't even think about asking for the gun back.

If you insist on carrying:
- Buy stamps from the grocery store
- Mail packages from UPS/FedEx stores
- Mail letters through your nearest post office box

Just sayin.

[hheremtp]

Also, what do you think about a CHL Badge? I'm thinking of getting one to cover me for Post Office carry.

I think almost every police officer I know would want to take you in a back room and beat you senseless for doing that.

There's about a million bad things that can happen because you wave some kind of badge around. If you have to pull something out for ID, it better be your CHL.

BTW, if you carry on Federal Property, you're asking for the biggest kind of trouble possible. Even if they call the cops and it's all "haha! just a simple mistake", you're still likely to get charged by federal prosecutors that get promoted in their jobs because they _prosecute_, not because they forgive. You can scratch around for every nuance you can in the laws(18 USC 930, in case you and a lawyer want to sit down and discuss it first), but once a postal employee hits a panic button, you're staring down THOUSANDS of dollars in legal costs, not to mention some jittery SWAT teams. And don't even think about asking for the gun back.

If you insist on carrying:
- Buy stamps from the grocery store
- Mail packages from UPS/FedEx stores
- Mail letters through your nearest post office box

Just sayin.

LKD, I think you missed the sarcasm in his post. I believe he was trying to make a joke.

[ScottDLS]

Also, what do you think about a CHL Badge? I'm thinking of getting one to cover me for Post Office carry.

I think almost every police officer I know would want to take you in a back room and beat you senseless for doing that.

There's about a million bad things that can happen because you wave some kind of badge around. If you have to pull something out for ID, it better be your CHL.

BTW, if you carry on Federal Property, you're asking for the biggest kind of trouble possible. Even if they call the cops and it's all "haha! just a simple mistake", you're still likely to get charged by federal prosecutors that get promoted in their jobs because they _prosecute_, not because they forgive. You can scratch around for every nuance you can in the laws(18 USC 930, in case you and a lawyer want to sit down and discuss it first), but once a postal employee hits a panic button, you're staring down THOUSANDS of dollars in legal costs, not to mention some jittery SWAT teams. And don't even think about asking for the gun back.

If you insist on carrying:
- Buy stamps from the grocery store
- Mail packages from UPS/FedEx stores
- Mail letters through your nearest post office box

Just sayin.

I think the trend toward more African Americans getting CHL is interesting. I'm a white (well actually orange) male, but like to see CHL demographics somewhat reflective of the population in generaL.

As for the CHL badge, I forgot to mention that I mainly wear it while acting as a Bounty Hunter (Bail Enforcement Agent). Therefore my authority to carry weapons is plenipotentiary (Taylor v. Taintor, 1872). I can even carry in Pakistan as long as I am pursuing a skip. However, just to be safe I have a weapon permit from their Interior Ministry. I also wear a BEA windbreaker that covers my weapon, and two large spray canisters of tear gas.

[sjfcontrol]

I'm a white (well actually orange) male, but like to see CHL demographics somewhat reflective of the population in generaL.

Scott -- Staying away from the spray-on tans will help that condition...