LEO asked to leave coffee shop

[bnc]

My comments weren't directed at you or anyone else on this forum.

My apologies for misunderstanding you. I'm a grumpy old poop, aren't I?

No problem, I'm a grumpy young poop.

[jester]

Thank you for talking common sense. A civilian with a hand gun license should be limited to having a pistol in their home, place of business, or a shooting range. There's no reason for a civilian to walk around in public with a pistol. If someone wants to strap a gun on their hip they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training. Just like you said. Nobody except the police and military needs a pistol in public places.

You sound suspicously like another person:

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State."

They both sound a lot like the people saying we should become cops if we want to carry in schools, while voting, at football games, etc.

[The Annoyed Man]

BTW, a trained off duty LEO is not the same as a citizen with a CHL and a citizen with a CHL is definitely not the same as a trained off duty LEO. If CH licensees want to be LEO's they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training. A CHL is not a BATMAN license.

Thank you for talking common sense. A civilian with a hand gun license should be limited to having a pistol in their home, place of business, or a shooting range. There's no reason for a civilian to walk around in public with a pistol. If someone wants to strap a gun on their hip they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training. Just like you said. Nobody except the police and military needs a pistol in public places.

Someone trolling a CHL board. What are the odds?

[RPB]

Thank you for talking common sense. A civilian with a hand gun license should be limited to having a pistol in their home, place of business, or a shooting range. There's no reason for a civilian to walk around in public with a pistol. If someone wants to strap a gun on their hip they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training. Just like you said. Nobody except the police and military needs a pistol in public places.

You sound suspicously like another person:

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State."

They both sound a lot like the people saying we should become cops if we want to carry in schools, while voting, at football games, etc.

Perhaps they are unaware of the various departments' requirements to become a police officer.
Prior to ADA, A un-named police dept. had a sign that stated "Handicapped persons need not apply"
So, I applied at another undisclosed city, did better on the obstacle course than most, did better on the written tests than most, so they took me and only me, "the handicapped guy" into a private room and told me to handcuff their martial arts instructor who would resist me, while they tape recorded the event. After I did that, and double locked them, (to their surprise) they stated that since the cuffs pinched him a little where he got a bit of his skin in the hinge area, that I didn't pass the special test so I couldn't be hired. (My Mom piched me harder than that as a kid in church to make me behave, sheesh) Later the ADA went into effect, but the age requirements (about 35 I believe) were lower than my age, I believe I was 36 at the time.


Generally,
Age limitation

Many of the investigative jobs have age require-ments and applicants must be at least 21 years of age, and under the age of thirty seven at the time of appointment.

Other positions only state that you must be 21 years of age and be a U.S. Citizens. The job announcement will provide the quali-fications required for that position.

If you want to work in law enforcement and you are over age 37 your options are more limited and you may have to consider a support position that does not have an age requirement.
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in the panhandle of Texas the age cut off is 44,
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Fort Worth Age Requirements: 21-44 years of age (cannot have reached 45 years of age)
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Abilene Maximum Age: No more than 35 years of age by date of hire on June 23,
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There are exceptions ...
There is no maximum age limit to apply for the Flower Mound Police Department. ...
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But I don't live there, nor desire to sell my home and move there, I retired where I wanted to retire.




But the MAIN reason I would rather not become a police officer is .....


I wouldnn't be welcome to drink coffee at some coffee shops

... gotta wonder if trollers working for Lipton Tea Company are suggesting people become LEOs so they can't drink coffee and instead buy Tea....

[Purplehood]

BTW, a trained off duty LEO is not the same as a citizen with a CHL and a citizen with a CHL is definitely not the same as a trained off duty LEO. If CH licensees want to be LEO's they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training. A CHL is not a BATMAN license.

Thank you for talking common sense. A civilian with a hand gun license should be limited to having a pistol in their home, place of business, or a shooting range. There's no reason for a civilian to walk around in public with a pistol. If someone wants to strap a gun on their hip they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training. Just like you said. Nobody except the police and military needs a pistol in public places.

Billy, did you know that the Brady Bunch is going broke?

[C-dub]

Billy hasn't posted again since #3. Bye bye Billy. Don't let the door ...

[Quahog]

I quit trying to grow a beard. Whenever I do it doesn't match my hair color on the top of my noggin. I don't dye it, it just doesn't match. Do others have this problem?

We all have this problem (at some point)... just wait long enough and your hair on top will come to match the beard or it won't be there any longer to worry about!

[The Annoyed Man]

Thank you for talking common sense. A civilian with a hand gun license should be limited to having a pistol in their home, place of business, or a shooting range.

Why? Because you say so?

There's no reason for a civilian to walk around in public with a pistol.

You've never been mugged or raped, have you? Or saved someone who has? Until then, you have a lot of opinion and no facts - but thanks for playing.

If someone wants to strap a gun on their hip they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training.

Cool - does that mean you'll buy me a select-fire AK47? I assure you that I have the relevant training and experience

Just like you said. Nobody except the police and military needs a pistol in public places.

And you don't need that cake you have stashed in your fridge - come on, hand it over - yeah, those pizzas, too. I'm only thinking of your health, after all - doesn't that feel better having someone else making decisions on what you need and don't need?

Seriously: it's the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs - and until that changes, you get zero say in telling others what their needs are.

Andy wins this page!

[Keith B]

Billy was apparently a troll in Billy Goats Gruff clothing.

The troll remediation team came along and he is no longer among us.

[joe817]

The troll remediation team came along and he is no longer among us.

I LIKE it!

[RPB]

I quit trying to grow a beard. Whenever I do it doesn't match my hair color on the top of my noggin. I don't dye it, it just doesn't match. Do others have this problem?

We all have this problem (at some point)... just wait long enough and your hair on top will come to match the beard or it won't be there any longer to worry about!

When I was a young lifeguard, my head hair was sun bleached blonde and my beard dark brown, A lady asked why, so I asked her why her hair was two-colred showing a different color at the roots, she said good answer, I get the point, none of my business ..

Now my beard is grey and the hair I have left is a mixture brown/grey/reddish auburn/and a few are black and more scalp color showing daily....
I've waited and waited and decided I'll never match, but I am a more "colorful person" the more I age.


(Still, my grey beard shows some brown, oh wait, that's COFFEE.)

[Keith B]

OK, please get back on topic.

[The Annoyed Man]

Billy was apparently a troll in Billy Goats Gruff clothing.

The troll remediation team came along and he is no longer among us.

Keith, does that mean that he won't be reading the PM I sent him yesterday?

It read something like this:

Subject: LEO asked to leave coffee shop

BTW, a trained off duty LEO is not the same as a citizen with a CHL and a citizen with a CHL is definitely not the same as a trained off duty LEO. If CH licensees want to be LEO's they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training. A CHL is not a BATMAN license.

Thank you for talking common sense. A civilian with a hand gun license should be limited to having a pistol in their home, place of business, or a shooting range. There's no reason for a civilian to walk around in public with a pistol. If someone wants to strap a gun on their hip they should apply to the respective agencies and go to the respective schools and receive the respective training. Just like you said. Nobody except the police and military needs a pistol in public places.

You've posted 3 times, 2 of which were related to hunting. You do realize that this board is for CHL holders, don't you?



You completely missed Oldgringo's point — and he also has a CHL and carries a gun, by the way, and he is not an LEO. His point was that CHL holders should not be presuming to act as police, because we aren't. Most CHL holders, myself included, would probably agree with him. But I know for a fact that Oldgringo would not agree with your interpretation of what he wrote as meaning that civilians should never carry handguns for self-defense. In fact, a number of our members are LEOs themselves, and they would not agree with you either.

I'm sorry if you think this message is inhospitable, but you're the one who joined a forum made up entirely of people who either have CHLs and do carry a weapon regularly, or who have applied for their permits, gone through the necessary steps to obtain one, and are waiting for their permits to come in the mail. This includes the man who owns the board, who is a prominent attorney, a member of the NRA Board of Trustees, and the Director of the Texas State Rifle Association.

This board does not exist to debate the legitimacy of the right to carry a pistol. Every one of us here begins with the presumption that it is a right, and it is legitimate. This board exists to help inform its members about issues, laws, best practices, shooting equipment and techniques, and other items which pertain to the right to keep and bear arms, which shall not be infringed.

You've carved out a position for yourself which is diametrically opposed to the goals of this board. I would be surprised if your membership privileges last.

Well, actually, it read exactly like that.

[Ol Zeke]

Billy was apparently a troll in Billy Goats Gruff clothing.

The troll remediation team came along and he is no longer among us.

A man's gotta know his limitations....

I actually could have quoted several of the posts in this thread for that one...