It's hard to argue with cold, hard facts.In the US there are 400,000 residential fires every year, and there are ~105,000,000 homes. Odds of a home fire? 1 in 263.
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According to the DOJ, the rate of being the victim of a violent crime is 20 / 1,000 overall (as high as 27 / 1,000 for some groups like african americans.) That comes out to 1 in 50.
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Why I carry- the odds...
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Why I carry- the odds...
Recently, someone challenged me as to why I felt the need to carry, asserting that the possibility of needing to use a firearm was exceedingly rare. I asked, "Do you have a fire extinguisher and smoke detectors in you home?" "Of course!" was the answer.
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I've been thinking of using fire insurance as the counter-example for carrying a gun. I like the smoke detector/fire extinguisher better. Thanks for the post and the statistics.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the odds of anything happening, 1 out of ???????
Guess who the 1 is
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Guess who the 1 is

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You could add asking if they wear a seatbelt, and if they reply in the affirmative, ask if that means they're planning on having an accident.davidtx wrote:I've been thinking of using fire insurance as the counter-example for carrying a gun. I like the smoke detector/fire extinguisher better. Thanks for the post and the statistics.
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"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Jeff Cooper
I am not a lawyer. Nothing in any of my posts should be construed as legal or professional advice.
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Folks--it's not about the odds-----it's about the stakes (my family member or me), which I think OG was referring to.
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According to NHTSA, US Bureau of Transit Statistics, US DOT's Federal Highway Administration..Excaliber wrote:You could add asking if they wear a seatbelt, and if they reply in the affirmative, ask if that means they're planning on having an accident.davidtx wrote:I've been thinking of using fire insurance as the counter-example for carrying a gun. I like the smoke detector/fire extinguisher better. Thanks for the post and the statistics.
Odds for being involved in a traffic crash (per driver)- 2.9M crash injuries per year, out of a population of ~210M drivers. 1 in 72.
Odds of being involved in a traffic crash (per car)- 2.9M crash injuries per year, out of ~260M. 1 in 89.
I'll try to find better sources for the numbers, NHTSA's non-fatal data isn't immediately apparent.
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Thats a good reason to buy lottery tickets. It's not about the odds, it's about the payoff.BR549 wrote:Folks--it's not about the odds-----it's about the stakes (my family member or me), which I think OG was referring to.
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And the odds are the bad reason.Tamie wrote:Thats a good reason to buy lottery tickets. It's not about the odds, it's about the payoff.BR549 wrote:Folks--it's not about the odds-----it's about the stakes (my family member or me), which I think OG was referring to.

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Re: Why I carry- the odds...
Beautifully put! If someone doesn't get that, there's no helping them.BR549 wrote:Folks--it's not about the odds-----it's about the stakes (my family member or me), which I think OG was referring to.
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Then why is it that 4 out of 5 Dentists recommend Crest?Oldgringo wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the odds of anything happening, 1 out of ???????

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It's hard to get that 1/4 dentist to talk right. It's kinda' like that 1/3 kid that everyone has. They just ain't right.WildBill wrote:Then why is it that 4 out of 5 Dentists recommend Crest?Oldgringo wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the odds of anything happening, 1 out of ???????

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Dentists? It's impossible for patients to talk right with the suction tube in your mouth, even if they don't use novocaine.
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If you buy lotto tickets because you think you might win, you should never buy a plane ticket.
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A old coworker of mine used to say that "The lottery is a tax on the mathematically inept".


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