Possible stalker

[Venus Pax]

I've read a decent number of books on criminal behavior, especially while waiting on my CHL to arrive.
Stalkers often do not stop their stalking over a restraining order. With some, it actually ticks them off.
That doesn't mean she shouldn't get it. Tell her to get it so that a paper trail is started.
However, she needs to be prepared to defend herself regardless of what he does. Crime happens everywhere, and many battery victims were not stalked prior to the attack.
As for changing her life over this guy, she doesn't need to think of it as changing it over him. Why not take a mindset of the empowered woman that is prepared to defend herself when the knight in shining armor isn't around to rescue the damsel in distress?

Any intermediate tools (the OC spray, kubotan) are great while she waits on her license, but I think the CHL is an excellent choice for those of us that don't make the cut for the Championship Wrestling teams.

[txinvestigator]

While this man's behavior is alarming and worthy of caution, I have to ask if I am missing something. He made ONE statement and was at a place the woman was the next day; anything more?

[Roger Howard]

While this man's behavior is alarming and worthy of caution, I have to ask if I am missing something. He made ONE statement and was at a place the woman was the next day; anything more?

If he continues the behavior it needs to be addressed. His ONE statement was disturbing in itself. We don't know the tone, but it was alarming enough to get posted here. Remember we all believe in protecting ourselves, family etc.. Why not be prepared for the worst. If it doesn't happen she will still be more aware and prepared for the future. This thread was presented as a possible stalker. As a former LEO you know what emotionally unstable people are capable of.

[txinvestigator]

While this man's behavior is alarming and worthy of caution, I have to ask if I am missing something. He made ONE statement and was at a place the woman was the next day; anything more?

If he continues the behavior it needs to be addressed. His ONE statement was disturbing in itself. We don't know the tone, but it was alarming enough to get posted here. Remember we all believe in protecting ourselves, family etc.. Why not be prepared for the worst. If it doesn't happen she will still be more aware and prepared for the future. This thread was presented as a possible stalker. As a former LEO you know what emotionally unstable people are capable of.

I am with you, but we have posts here to "charge him with stalking" "changing her life over this guy", etc.

A calm, well thought out plan is proper. ;)

[Roger Howard]

[flintknapper]

[/quote] A calm, well thought out plan is proper. ;)[/quote]



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[JLaw]

I've read a decent number of books on criminal behavior

Could you share a few titles and authors of your favorites? Sounds like good reading.

JLaw

[RedRaider]

I've read a decent number of books on criminal behavior

Could you share a few titles and authors of your favorites? Sounds like good reading.

JLaw

Here's one worth reading: "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin De Becker. My CHL instructor recommeded it, I think I read it in a day or two, good book.

[TSC]

I agree on the "stalking" charge. You must first be charged/convicted of harrassment before stalking would apply. The Pepper Spray is a great idea. Some self defense classes and a CHL would be better. PM me and I can give you info. I am a 20 year cop, own a gun store and offer all of the above.

[txinvestigator]

I agree on the "stalking" charge. You must first be charged/convicted of harrassment before stalking would apply. The Pepper Spray is a great idea. Some self defense classes and a CHL would be better. PM me and I can give you info. I am a 20 year cop, own a gun store and offer all of the above.

No, being charged with harrassment is not required to get a stalking charge.

Harassment and stalking are different offenses.


Texas Penal code
§42.07. Harassment.

(a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to harass,
annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, or embarrass another, he:

(1) initiates communication by telephone, in writing, or by
electronic communication and in the course of the communication makes
a comment, request, suggestion, or proposal that is obscene;

(2) threatens, by telephone, in writing, or by electronic
communication, in a manner reasonably likely to alarm the person
receiving the threat, to inflict bodily injury on the person or to
commit a felony against the person, a member of his family or
household, or his property;

(3) conveys, in a manner reasonably likely to alarm the
person receiving the report, a false report, which is known by the
conveyor to be false, that another person has suffered death or
serious bodily injury;

(4) causes the telephone of another to ring repeatedly or
makes repeated telephone communications anonymously or in a manner
reasonably likely to harass, annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, embarrass,
or offend another;

(5) makes a telephone call and intentionally fails to hang up
or disengage the connection;

(6) knowingly permits a telephone under the person's control
to be used by another to commit an offense under this section; or

(7) sends repeated electronic communications in a manner
reasonably likely to harass, annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, embarrass,
or offend another.




§42.072. Stalking.

(a) A person commits an offense if the person, on more than
one occasion and pursuant to the same scheme or course of conduct that
is directed specifically at another person, knowingly engages in
conduct, including following the other person, that:

(1) the actor knows or reasonably believes the other person
will regard as threatening:

(A) bodily injury or death for the other person;

(B) bodily injury or death for a member of the other person's
family or household; or

(C) that an offense will be committed against the other
person's property;

(2) causes the other person or a member of the other person's
family or household to be placed in fear of bodily injury or death or
fear that an offense will be committed against the other person's
property; and

(3) would cause a reasonable person to fear:

(A) bodily injury or death for himself or herself;

(B) bodily injury or death for a member of the person's
family or household; or

(C) that an offense will be committed against the person's
property.

(b) An offense under this section is a felony of the third
degree, except that the offense is a felony of the second degree if
the actor has previously been convicted under this section.

[Venus Pax]

Gavin deBecker's book The Gift of Fear is one good one, but I've read better.
I've actually had to go back and do a library search of books to see what I've checked out and liked. My mind drew a blank when you asked.
Patricia Harman's The Danger Zone: How you can protect yourself from rape, robbery, and assault talked a lot about noticing behaviors.

Paxton Quigley has good resources that touched on the subject of behavior.

Your best bet are books on criminal profiling and criminal behavior. Books on criminal profiling will tell you some interesting things about criminals. They don't always fit our stereotypes, but they certainly have a lot in common. As fare as criminal behavior, there are some clues to their deviance that may not jump out at you until you know to look for them.
I can't find many that I've read; I just found more to check out. If I find them, I'll post them.

[Venus Pax]

There's a book called Real Knockouts that I discovered last night & read most of it. Although it contrasts mainstream feminism with practical feminism & self-defense, it does discuss the rapist's mentality in some depth, and his belief that he is entitled to sexual activity from the female.

(I can't recall the author, but run a search on the book through your library. My county library had it online.)

[KD5NRH]

my sister did not want to change her life becuase of this freak.

So she'd prefer to not be able to stop him when he decides to change her life?

[stevie_d_64]

My wife is getting the details now, but what else can you do?.

This is why God made swamps I think.

That guy needs to be at the bottom of one.


There are some seriously sick, freaky, people out there.

The shallows between LaMarque and Galveston could work as well...But I've only heard about that...

Almost everytime I drive down to Galveston that creepy feeling hits me as I drive past those areas...

[seamusTX]

The shallows between LaMarque and Galveston could work as well...But I've only heard about that...

They frequently do. Just be sure to use lots of cinder blocks or a boat anchor.

- Jim